Talk:Prisoner in the Vatican
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John XXIII ended Prisoner of the Vatican Status
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<<The popes maintained their status as prisoners of the Vatican even after the Lateran treaties were signed in 1929. Although they traveled privately to Castel Gandolfo, they made no public visits outside the Vatican. The only exception occurred during World War II, when Pope Pius XII made brief visits to some bombed neighborhoods of Rome. Pope John XXIII ended this charade shortly after his election, when he emerged from the Vatican bunkers and ushered in the era of the modern papacy. On 25 December 1958, he visited children suffering from polio at the Bambin Gesù hospital and then visited Santo Spirito Hospital. The next day he visited Rome's Regina Coeli prison, where he told the prisoners: "You could not come to me, so I came to you." These were the first official acts of a Pope away from Vatican territory since 1870, and they created a sensation. He wrote in his diary:
- ... great astonishment in the Roman, Italian and international press. I was hemmed in on all sides: authorities, photographers, prisoners, wardens ... [Peter Hebblethwaite, Pope John XXIII: Shepherd of the Modern World, Image Books (1987) p. 303]>>
Contrary to Panarjedde's claim, Pius XII did not end the prisoner of the Vatican status. It was John XXIII who ended this farce when he performed "the first official acts of a Pope away from Vatican territory since 1870."
Prisoner of the Vatican
The title of this article should be "Prisoner of the Vatican" which is the correct translation of the Italian expression "Prigioniere del Vaticano." The current title, "Prisoner in the Vatican," corresponds to the Italian "Prigioniere nel Vaticano," an expression that I have NEVER heard.
- I plan to look into the question of where this article should be in the near future. I picked up Kertzer's book the other day - sounds interesting - and noticed the discrepancy as well. But as I'm unfamiliar with the topic (and it's located at "Prisonero en el Vaticano" on the Spanish Wikipedia, although that could also be a mistake), I'll leave it for now. Recognizance (talk) 23:36, 19 August 2009 (UTC)