Talk:Pristina

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For past discussions on the most common English language spelling of the city's name, see Wikipedia:Manual of Style (Kosovo-related articles)/Prishtina-Pristina-Priština.

It's Serbian province NOT a Republic!

How dare you to write an article that ot is capital of the Republic of Kosovo??? Says who? That illegal separation is recognized NOT by 2/3 of the UN member states, 5 of 27 EU members don't recognize it as well as UN. Be objective! Write down that it is the largest city of Serbian southern province and then put [1] and explonation you want. Once more, if just 78 of 193 states recognize it, is it valid? Is there some Kosovo flag in front of UN? NO. So? Be fair!79.175.120.60 (talk) 21:10, 5 October 2011 (UTC)

All hypocritical

If 76 of 192 countries have recognized this illegal separation, why you respect the minority, big minority (look the population of Russia, India, China, Brazil, Indonesia, Iran and other big states which do not recognize this illegal act)? Here you must put map of Serbia and under ref you can mention that USA pushed separation. Also you must mention that in 1999. in Pristina lived 40 000 of Serbs and tday just 44. Write a bit about ethnical cleansing of Serbs. Don't close your eyes. Today Kosovo tomorrow Quebec, New Mexico, Texas, Basqia, Wales, North Ireland, Bavaria, Kurdistan and who knows what else. Be fair! Respect laws, international laws, UN Chapter and majority!79.175.69.103 (talk) 03:45, 12 June 2011 (UTC)

Elections

I believe the time is now, as good as anytime till now, to edit the entire article and to align it with the reality, viewed both from historical point and from the present perspective. Kosovo has just passed another important test in the eyes of its citizens and also the entire international community : we just had the Local elections nad they were a great success again ! There was an increase on participation in regard from 2007 elections (~ 100,000 plus voters), they where in accordance to European Standards for Elections ( many praises are directed to all Kosovo, it's government and people, for excellent completion of election process so far, from Washington, London and from the EU delegation which was monitoring the process) and what is very important a significant number or serbophone kosovars voted last Sunday for their representatives. Bearing in mind all above and the fact that Kosovo has declared it's independence once and for all from Serbia and from any other administration which is not elected or welcomed by its people, I think the administrator should review the text about Prishtina and make the changes accordingly.

In hope the above arguments and the reality on field will be taken in consideration, I thank anyone who contributed on this subject with their objective argumentations.

Sincerely,

Blerim, (Prishtina born citizen and still living there) Tuesday, November 17, 2009

—Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.149.99.34 (talk) 19:25, 17 November 2009 (UTC)

Kosovo GDP

Hi, I wanted to incporate some information into the economy section, however it seems you cannot edit it. In 1981 Kosovo's GDP per capita was 33% of the Yugoslav average, while Pristina's GDP per capita was 70% of the Yugoslav average. I think it points out the massive differences in development between Kosovo and the rest of Yugoslavia, but also within Kosovo, since Pristina as a city was much more developed than the rest of Kosovo. Any objections to including this? here's the source

—Preceding unsigned comment added by Yugo91aesop (talk • contribs) 04:07, 28 November 2009 (UTC)

wrong district?

Is Prishtina really situated in the district of Prizren as indicated in the info box?? --93.130.217.174 (talk) 09:17, 1 December 2009 (UTC)

Fixed. kedadial 13:48, 1 December 2009 (UTC)

Economy section reads like an advertisement

When I read "An Albanian millionaire in Croatia is building the largest building in the Balkans. Up to 262 metres (860 ft) high and with a capacity to hold 20,000 people it is indeed a jewel.", all I can think is... this reads like an advertisement. --oKtosiTe ^talk 10:38, 21 December 2009 (UTC)

Is Pristina part of Kosovo or Serbia?

There is an edit war in Tafa Air. Since the info box of this article says Pristina is in Kosovo I had changed it in the Tafa Air article once. This has been reverted. Another user always changes it to Kosova and another one back to Serbia. I don't know what's right so please help me. Thanks in advance. --Albspotter (talk) 09:09, 8 January 2010 (UTC)

It is part of both: Pristina is part of Kosovo, and Kosovo remains a part of Serbia.

Basically, Kosovo is a disputed territory, with limited recognition. The first line in the Kosovo article states "Kosovo is a disputed territory in the Balkans."

As a result, Pristina should remain officially in Serbia until said dispute is resolved.

There is also the existing discussion at the Kosovo talk page, which is the appropriate place to bring this up. Thanks, Jasepl (talk) 09:21, 8 January 2010 (UTC)

Look, what's disputed isn't whether Pristina is a part of Kosovo, it's whether Kosovo is a part of Serbia, i.e. saying Pristina is a part of Kosovo is agreeable on both parts, why don't we stick to that ? -- CD 13:45, 8 January 2010 (UTC)

Yes, Pristina is in Kosovo - no one questioned that. However, Kosovo remains a disputed territoty (and not a country). As a result - since we are listing countries in the section in question (and not regions/provinces/states etc), Pristina will stay listed under Serbia until the matter is resolved. Thanks, Jasepl (talk) 10:51, 22 January 2010 (UTC)

On articles where Kosovo is mentioned, we're putting a note aside which describes the nature of the dispute to avoid flame wars (Kosovo; Serbia; Kosovo/Serbia; Serbia/Kosovo; Kosovo/UNMIK/Serbia; etc). Thank you. Btw, why should we discuss the Tafa Air incident in this talk page? kedadial 14:14, 22 January 2010 (UTC)

Because this is a general question. If it says "country: Kosovo" here than it should be the same in every article that mentions Pristina and the country it belongs to. --Albspotter (talk) 14:21, 22 January 2010 (UTC)

Absolutely disagree with the suggestion/course of action by user Kedadi. We should leave that little disclaimer for the Kosovo page (and its there already, starting with the very first sentence). This is a simple list of destinations served by a fledgling little airline. Let’s leave the politics and protests out of it. Once the status of Kosovo is settled, it’s an easy enough fix to make the change across Wikipedia articles. Until then, leave the status quo. Which is more accurate anyway, because Pristina is in Kosovo, which, in turn, remains in Serbia. Jasepl (talk) 16:32, 22 January 2010 (UTC)

I'm really sorry that you disagree but there is a consensus for that (something that I'm not comping up right now) and we've agreed to use the word Kosovo with a note aside. Thank you. kedadial 16:58, 22 January 2010 (UTC)

You've nothing to be sorry about. That said, I didn't find any consensus at either the Kosovo or the Pristina talk pages - do you know where it is? And in any event, as I've said several times already, the Kosovo article starts out saying (and I quote): "Kosovo (Albanian: Kosova, Kosovë; Serbian: Косово or Косово и Метохија, Kosovo or Kosovo i Metohija[6]) is a disputed territory in the Balkans." As everyone is well aware, there is a dispute. One that will be resolved at some point. Until that happens, we should retain the status quo. In any event, since this matter is being discussed, please don't make any more changes or reverts until it is resolved. Thanks, Jasepl (talk) 17:36, 22 January 2010 (UTC)

• By the way, all of the other editors who have been advocating the retention of Listing Pristina under Serbia have no connection or emotional bond, nor any personal stake in Pristina/Kosovo/Serbia/the Balkans. It might be worthwhile keeping in mind our unbiased nature and intent when you read the above. Thanks, Jasepl (talk) 17:44, 22 January 2010 (UTC)

AFAIK the consensus has been reached in this discussion. The Kosovo-note template can be found in any Kosovo-related article, such as: Šar Mountains, Pristina, Prizren, Adem Jashari, Batlava Lake, etc. Thank you. kedadial 18:01, 22 January 2010 (UTC)

• Incidentally, it's part of both.

It is SERBIA

Please, do not change facts! You are not Security Council of the UN to establish new states!!!!!!!! Pristina is city in Serbia and not capital of some selfproclaimed state of Kosovo which is not recognized by 2/3 of countries and 80% of world's population. Wikipedia can not put FAKE facts!!!!!!!!!!!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.87.199.15 (talk) 22:07, 1 February 2010 (UTC)

Wikipedia has to be neutral. You must mention that it is a part of Serbia for Serbia and 2/3 of world's state, while for Albanian separatists and 1/3 of countries (like "free" Afghanistan and some else) is a "state"... so Pristina is not a capital of some selfproclaimed Kosovo but the largest city of Serbian province of Kosovo and Metohija, at least by UN ! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.87.216.248 (talk) 15:57, 25 February 2010 (UTC)

Tag

Someone doesn't know how to put in an endnote tag lol.... 99.236.221.124 (talk) 01:18, 20 February 2010 (UTC)

The location map is not NPOV…

…since by its current external borders it implies that Kosovo is still part of Serbia, a status that is not recognized internationally. To be NPOV, the map should show only the borders of Kosovo itself.--MaGioZal (talk) 15:18, 15 March 2010 (UTC)

Edit request from Thekanun1, 1 May 2010

{{editsemiprotected}} Name of city is : Prishtina (Kosova) Prishtina is the capital and the largest city of Kosovo, it and its suburbs are estimated to have a total population of over 500,000. It is unclear how many inhabitants the city has, as the population has for decades boycotted the censuses organized in former Yugoslavia.

The area of Prishtina has a long history, in its vincity archaeological discoveries have been found which date back to the early neolithical ages.

Southeast of the city, the remains of Ulpiana were discovered, the center of the Illyrian province of Dardania. Ulpiana dates back to pre Roman times, during Roman rule Ulpiana flourished it was renewed in the 6th century during the rule of Justinian, after whom it was called Iustinana Secunda. According to inscriptions on the monuments from Ulpiana, it is apparent that it was one of the most beautiful cities of the Illyrian Dardania, as it was often reffered to as Ulpiana Splendissima. A number of articles were discovered here such as coins, ceramics, weapons, jewlery, all of which are exhibited at the Museum of History of Kosovo in Prishtina.

Thekanun1 (talk) 00:00, 2 May 2010 (UTC)

Please provide a reliable source (more than one, preferably) to verify this info. • ɔ ʃ → 02:00, 2 May 2010 (UTC)

Edit

Can we please edit this Article to make it look similar to those of other capital cities.

this would make the whole page seem more pleasant and it would put Prishtina/Pristina in line with other capitals cities from around the world.

Please take this into consideration when making new edits on the page.

Thankyou. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.218.24.78 (talk) 13:28, 11 August 2010 (UTC)

Name of the article

Personally I don't support Kosovan independence but I don't believe that much can be done about that now. Anyway, this article should be titled "Prishtinë or Prishtina" which are the common Albanian spellings of the city. I know this is English Wikipedia but that isn't the point - spellings of major cities where there are ethnic problems should use the spelling of the majority of people in that city. English spellings will change overtime in the same way that Bombay (Mumbai), Peking (Beijing), Stettin (Szczecin), Breslau (Wroclaw), Constantinople (Istanbul), Fiume (Rijeka), Zara (Zadar) and all the others that have changed their spelling in English to reflect the wishes of the people in that area.--78.155.48.36 (talk) 21:35, 12 December 2010 (UTC)

"I know this is English Wikipedia but that isn't the point." Well actually it is the point. English Wikipedia must use common English-language spellings, and at present "Pristina" is the preferred spelling in English. Should this change in the future then the article should also change, but we're not there yet. Bazonka (talk) 08:01, 2 January 2011 (UTC)

Edit request from Atdheu, 10 April 2011

I think that it is not logical to put on a name of a city as it is called by its enemies, rather than the way it is called by its inhabitants, and is recognized internationally. It is as if writing New York City in Cyrillic and claiming that that is the norm. In the name of objective truth I would like to change some of the entries in the name of Prishtina, the capitol of Kosova, and that the name Pristina be redirected to Prishtina instead. If truth is what you want, truth is what you will get, in this objective website. Please let me be objective.

Atdheu (talk) 06:58, 10 April 2011 (UTC)

Note: I have moved this edit request from Talk:Prishtina, which redirects here. Dabomb87 (talk) 17:09, 10 April 2011 (UTC)

Names of article titles are not chosen based on winners, enemies, or things of that sort. Rather, the only decision we make is what the most common name is in English sources. For example, we call the beautiful and famous city in Italy Florence, even though no one who lives there calls it that--they call it "Firenze". Similarly, the names of Russian cities are writing with English characters, not Cyrillic. For more info on how the naming policy works, see WP:Article titles and Wikipedia:Naming conventions (geographic names). Having said that, I have literally zero opinion as to what the most common English name of this city is, so you're welcome to carry on a discussion here about what that is. Just note that your rationale for wanting a name change cannot involve the arguments you raised in your edit request. Qwyrxian (talk) 05:08, 11 April 2011 (UTC)

Part of history section regarding Balkan wars

This small part is based upon 3 sources,2 of which are based in Vienna and Budapest,main cities of Austro-Hungarian Empire.In those times,Austro-Hungarian Empire had very clear anti Serbian attitude so these sources could,very well be pure propaganda against Serbia,in context of hostility which will result in World War I.

3rd sourcе (Archbishop of Skopje),used to source 2 claims:

1. After the Serbian army took the city of Pristina in October 1912, the retaliation against the civilian population was fierce
2. Number of Albanians of Pristina killed in the early days of the Serbian rule is estimated at 5,000

says folowing regarding Pristina:

1. In Prishtina, the number of Albanians slain is estimated at 5,000. But it would seem here that the Albanians, under the direction of Turkish officers, misused the white flag and treacherously murdered numerous Serb officers and many soldiers. The exact number is not known.
2. Prizrend [Prizren]. The town surrendered without a fight, but this did not stop a repetition of the horrors committed against the Albanians everywhere else, with the possible exception of Prishtina.

Whole part of article lacks of (neutral) sources and is (deliberately) misusing other sources. CrniBombarder!!! (†) 17:11, 6 July 2011 (UTC)

The origin of the name

I agree that the big majority of the slavic cities, towns, place, rivers, mountains around Europe have names that are originary slavic. But you just can't write that it is wrong that Pristina is not a Serbian name. It is. Almost every geographical name in Serbia is of serbian-slavic origin. Like in Poland the names are of polish-slavic origin. Please correct the mistake. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vukajlija54 (talk • contribs) 09:15, 20 July 2011 (UTC)

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More on education, please

I noticed that there are only universities listed on the EDUCATION heading. Would it be possible to add a list of International Schools?

I submitted an article on International Learning Group which is an non-profit English language elementary school in Pristina.

Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Johnsone330 (talk • contribs) 17:24, 8 February 2012 (UTC)