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Inaccurate information[edit]

The first image on the page INCORRECTLY denotes the quark structure of a proton. The gluon fields binding the the three quarks together should not shown as connecting one quark to another and forming a triangular shape; rather, the gluon fields should be originating from the direct center of the image and extending outward to the quarks to form a Y-like shape. 67.61.85.45 (talk) 22:13, 5 July 2013 (UTC)

I do not think so. See asymptotic freedom. Incnis Mrsi (talk) 05:21, 6 July 2013 (UTC)

Incnis: citing another Wiki article is no justification whatsoever. I have just watched a YouTube video which also explicitly makes the claim that the diagram is wrong, and the person making this claim is, according to the video, Professor Derek Leinweber of Univ. of Adelaide. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ztc6QPNUqls&feature=player_embedded This directly and explicitly discusses that diagram and says (3 min 30 second into video) that we now know that it is wrong. The diagram needs to be fixed or removed.72.172.11.140 (talk) 20:48, 29 January 2014 (UTC)

Are sand–PVC models, some speaking faces, and their strangely distorted speech (something like “We know that all picture is totally wrong now. Even if… blah-blah… would see quark tubes around… blah-blah-blah-blah… more than three quarks…”) all that you can present? Give a citation, please, exactly on the question of Y-shape vs triangle. Possibly from the same Derek Leinweber, but as a legible text. Incnis Mrsi (talk) 12:53, 30 January 2014 (UTC)

Magnetic shielding correction not in Infobox template[edit]

To Krebs49, who attempted today to add the magnetic shielding correction value to the infobox and noted in his edit summary that the added value does not appear: I believe the problem is that the infobox is generated using Template:Infobox particle and can only show the parameters listed there. So you could either (1) edit the template to include Magnetic shielding correction (and carefully check that this action does not otherwise affect either this Proton article or the articles for other particles), or (2) leave the infobox alone and put the magnetic shielding correction into the text somewhere. Dirac66 (talk) 20:02, 3 April 2014 (UTC)

Inaccurate illustration[edit]

The three-balls-held-together-with-springs illustration is, apparently, an oversimplified model of what is inside a proton, which has been outdated since the 1970's. However, a more accurate model would be, apparently, quite complex-- see this illustration: [[File:MyProton|thumbnail|Prof Matt Strassler's illustration of a proton - complex]] and the article from which it comes: http://profmattstrassler.com/articles-and-posts/largehadroncolliderfaq/whats-a-proton-anyway/ I suggest that we put both the simplified, iconic image, and the less-simplified image, suitably captioned.

I don't know if Matt Strassler approves his image for use on Wikipedia or not. Dc3 (talk) 19:28, 4 June 2014 (UTC)

Synchronize with the neutron article[edit]

I've been poking at the article for neutron of late, with occasional visits to this page. The two articles (and likely others) should have a degree of similarity about them, seems to me. The History section on this article is rather far down in the article, whereas it is at top in the neutron article. I tend to think the history section should be toward the top since this section also serves as an introduction to the topic. In any case, a certain uniformity in article design would likely be helpful. Bdushaw (talk) 03:19, 15 September 2014 (UTC)

I consider that a synchronization of this article with electron, beside that with neutron, is useful and recommended.--85.121.32.27 (talk) 11:38, 19 September 2014 (UTC)