Talk:Pyjamas (software)

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This article was written by User:Lkcl who is listed as a/the lead developer. That's fine so long as the article remains compliant with policies such as WP:NPOV, WP:V (it seems WP:N was already established in the AfD). It sounds a little bit like an advert currently so can someone please tidy the article somewhat. -- samj inout 11:47, 9 October 2009 (UTC)

ahh, hello again sam. after your failure to accept that comprehensive javascript applications can be "RIA", despite overwhelming evidence that the phrase has been adapted and is now in common usage to that effect, i am not surprised to see that you're still believing that i must somehow be self-promoting, self-serving and "advertising". *sigh*. please can i advise anyone wishing to listen to sam a) to note that i haven't made any edits for several months to this page: users and developers in fact now make the changes b) to make their own minds up, by comparing the GWT page from which Pyjamas was copied, as the basis for creating this one. the layout, sentence structure and page style have all been used as the basis for this page, with the key differences being having to fight with wikifascism, and the addition of pyjamas-desktop. thus, by inference if you criticise this page as being "advertising", sam, you criticise GWT. so please do go away and criticise GWT, see how you get on, and _then_ come back to trying the same thing here. much appreciated. lkcl. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.171.129.73 (talk) 12:15, 11 June 2010 (UTC)

AfD[edit]

hi wikipedians, if you want to delete Pyjamas_(software), you must also apply the same strict rules to Google_Web_Toolkit and delete that page as well. Pyjamas_(software) was copied, pretty much verbatim, from Google_Web_Toolkit's wikipedia page. the project, which is a port of GWT, is not as well-known as GWT, but that doesn't make it any "less important". so - leave the page alone: there's absolutely no need to go destroying people's efforts to document the existence of a project. lkcl.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.16.107.175 (talk)

First of all, please read WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS. The existence of some other article doesn't necessarily have any bearing on this one; we judge deletions on a case-by-case basis.
i forgot about the slashdot article. now leave the page alone. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.16.109.155 (talk) 13:34, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
Secondly, in this edit you acknowledged that Pyjamas hasn't received any major coverage in independent sources. That would suggest that it doesn't satisfy Wikipedia's notability requirement. Politizer talk/contribs 18:35, 17 January 2009 (UTC)
Politizer- Thanks for what you're trying to do in keeping wikipedia a clean place. I am a user of the pyjamas python-to-js compiler. It is an outstanding, ligitimate, and important piece of work. I know my use doesn't add to it's notability though. I just did a quick google search and found several independent websites with pieces concerning pyjamas. Would it help if I listed some of these as external sources at the bottom of the article? Because of the nature of pyjamas, I don't think we'll fnd any articles in peer reviewed scientific journals. :-) Gdw2 (talk) 00:23, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

I consider Pyjamas a highly valuable software project which fully deserves an entry in the Wikipedia. As regards to notability, I think it's a dubious criterion to judge what deserves to be included, due to its necessarily subjective essence. If there's a way to make it objective, I'd highly appreciate to see the comparison methods being employed. Until then, my word is: please, keep it as it is. Wikipedia has a well earned reputation of being a source where one can find even the more arcane subjects. It would be a shame that people who seeks for information about Pyjamas has to turn to other sources.

Ernesto Savoretti Sandy98 (talk) 07:02, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

While I believe pyjamas has a great deal of potential and will warrant this Wikipedia entry eventually. I'm not sure I disagree with the current notability of the project, While many people are using it for small internal sandbox projects as indicated by the traffic on the mailing list, are there any semi-popular websites/applications/companies relying on pyjamas that we know about? --Terry 99.226.140.164 (talk) 14:11, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

Yes: http://worldfairtradeday09.org. leave the page alone. lkcl. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.16.109.155 (talk) 13:54, 21 January 2009 (UTC)

Keep the page alive! We are using Pyjamas at my start-up (Maven Interactive) and believe it to hold great promise. It's a great technology and I know some other developers who are investigating its potential. But using it is something of a competitive advantage, so we're not talking very loudly about it, if at all. While my start-up is still in stealth mode I use a number of technologies that I don't want to broadcast to the world. A couple of times when I was interviewing developers I sent them to Wikipedia to show them one of the technologies I needed them to know. I suppose I can easily reference other sites. But Wikipedia is well-known and easy to reference. MichaelcMurdock (talk) 18:04, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

oh - nearly forgot: http://developers.slashdot.org/developers/08/11/28/1335248.shtml - leave the page alone. lkcl —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.16.109.155 (talk) 13:06, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

what's with this being blacklisted??? h t t p : / / w w w .r e a d w r i t e w e b . c o m /archives/pyjamas_build_ajax_apps_in_pyt.php ReadWriteWeb Article, Dec 2008. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.16.109.155 (talk) 13:32, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

(update by lkcl: hmmm - as part of checking what i'm talking about, i've done a quick comparison of GWT and Pyjamas pages: it appears that the GWT page has undergone significant edits since its style and sentence structure were copied as the basis for the Pyjamas page, almost a year ago: they're now radically different. perhaps it is time to once again take a copy of the sentences used by the GWT project. just to get sam to shut the **** up, perhaps someone else could do that?). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.171.129.73 (talkcontribs) 12:28, 11 June 2010 (UTC)

I trust this article is no longer controversial. Pyjamas is more widely used now. Pasado (talk) 06:44, 3 August 2011 (UTC)

Perfection of Implementation[edit]

Is Pyjamas perfect? In other words, does the translation produce code that perfectly follows the Python specifications?

I am interested in introducing a certain company to Pyjamas, but they absolutely need a perfect implementation of Python to JavaScript, one that will act exactly the same way as desktop Python in every way.

Thanks for your help. --Carrot Lord (talk) 07:25, 18 January 2013 (UTC)

Addendum - It looks like it is not perfect. I looked at the about page for Pyjamas, but it seems that calling type on a single argument is not allowed? Is this true in --strict mode? --Carrot Lord (talk) 07:30, 18 January 2013 (UTC)

Resources[edit]

The link labeled "Pyjamas: Project Home" under Resources is broken. It appears Google no longer has a Pyjamas page. But I don't know how to edit something implemented as a RefList object. Dshafer (talk) 20:58, 19 September 2013 (UTC)