Talk:Pyongyang Metro

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Original Tunnel[edit]

Apparently one reason for the Metro's depth is due to the terrain in Pyongyang. The first tunnel was reportedly built much higher up and collapsed due to the unstable ground around it. For that reason, it had to be dug much deeper. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.190.33.226 (talk) 04:25, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

The tunnel collapse is hearsay. It is more likely that the depth was due to the era in which the line was dug. That was when metro systems were seen as shelters from nuclear attack and the depth was needed for protection. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.25.115.78 (talk) 03:59, 27 January 2013 (UTC)

The price?[edit]

The price cannot be that low (5W), there's no circulating piece of money (coin or even a banknote) of such a low value anymore. 10 won is the smallest unit around there nowadays (since 2002 or so). 80.220.116.12 (talk) —Preceding undated comment was added at 16:57, 20 July 2008 (UTC)

Weasel words[edit]

"Some sources say the metro only operates during rush hours."

"Some sources say at least 100 workers died in the accident."

Translated from Russian, on a Russian BBS: "Station "PONGVA" - "Guiding Light"

Photo: No Opening date of September 6, 1973 Type of station: underground Number of Outputs: Unknown Location: in the center of the city, near the supermarket № 1, the Workers 'Party of Korea Monument, the Museum of the History of the Workers' Party of Korea, the National Drama Theatre, the House of Friendship and International Cultural Relations, the House of Culture "Chollima" For more information: it was the terminus of the first line from 06/09/1973 to 10/04/1987.

Comments: There is a version that the current location of the station is different from the project. It was originally supposed to continue the first line from the station "Pongva" Tedong under the river's left bank of the city. But in 1971 at the site of the excavation collapsed, killing some 100 people, including several high-ranking military officials. The size of the disaster was so great that it made the decision to change the perspective tracing the line and send it along the right bank of the river (the plans were implemented in 1987, with the opening of stations "Engvan" and "Puhyn"). To peretrassirovat line, had to abandon the original construction site of a new station and not far from the first. What was the percentage of work performed on the construction site of the original station and what is the future of building - is unknown."

http://www.pyongyang-metro.com/metrostats.html "The Chollima line was originally planned to cross under the Taedong river, but a tunnel is said to have collapsed at Ponghwa station in 1971, killing more than 100 people. Further attempts to build the line under the river were apparently abandoned, and thereafter the line was re-routed towards Puhung; Ponghwa station seems to have been re-sited.

What constitutes some sources?

"Others claim that the cars only run when they are shown off to foreign dignitaries and media reporters."

Who constitutes others?

"...although its use by average North Koreans is disputed." It carries a significant amount of traffic.

The Fares: http://www.pyongyang-metro.com/metrostats.html "The standard mass-transit fare was 10 jon for all journeys until the 2002 devaluation (“currency reform”), which abolished the jon. The fare was increased to 1 won, paid with metal tokens like the one above; the fare has more recently been raised again, to 5 won. Entry to the system is controlled by barriers such as the ones below:

The 5 won tolkens bear both the symbol ji of the subway.


Who is disputing?

This is Wikipedia so substantiation is an afterthought. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.25.115.78 (talk) 04:00, 27 January 2013 (UTC)

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This is the first full article I wrote on the English wikipedia (a translation of the Dutch article I wrote about this topic). I hope I didn't make too many mistakes in translating the article. If I did, please tell me and I will refrain from writing articles in the English Wikipedia in the future. ;-) Regards, David Eerdmans 21:11, 22 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Are the metro Rolling stocks coming from Berlin U-Bahn or S-Bahn? I am not sure, but it looks more the size of S-Bahn, U-Bahn being a much lighter metro system (and also because the S-Bahn was east-German and this photo looks very much like Russian metro cars). Lachambre 20:36, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

The train in the photo ("Dora" type) is "large profile" stock from the West Berlin U-Bahn. It was acquired second-hand from the reunified U-Bahn during the 1990s. The Pyongyang metro originally had Chinese-built trains (which, for political reasons, the North Korean government claimed were made domestically). PyongyangMetro.com has all the details of the rolling stock. GagHalfrunt 00:01, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

Mass Transit Railway[edit]

Can anyone find a source for the official name being Pyongyang Mass Transit Railway? There is an official guidebook which quite clearly names it as the Pyongyang Metro. GagHalfrunt 00:03, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

It's not, and the Korean quite clearly says 지하철, which means "subway" or "metro". I'm reverting the move. Jpatokal 04:47, 9 July 2006 (UTC)
actually the transliteration of지하철 would be akin to “underground steel”


Where's the Logic?[edit]

Where is the logic in assigning the South Korean Government's Revised Romanization System to this North Korean name? The subway system in Pyongyang is named by North Koreans in their language and when/if that name is Romanized shouldn’t the North Korean Romanization system be used? Why would it be appropriate to use the South Korean Government system? I suggest no North Korean topic or person be assigned the South Korean Government’s Ministry of Education revised Romanization System Romanization because… it’s illogical. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.79.62.16 (talk) 09:26, 12 October 2007 (UTC)