Talk:Pyotr Bagration

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Move to Pyotr Ivanovich Bagration[edit]

We need to replace the orphaned stub Pyotr Ivanovich Bagration with this article, which to pity goes under wrong name as sugested by transliteration rules. DmitryKo 14:54, 17 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Done. violet/riga (t) 23:34, 18 Mar 2005 (UTC)

In Russian, it would be pronounced bah-GRAH-tee-awn[edit]

Isn't it bah-grah-tee-AWN? RJ CG (talk) 17:34, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

Georgian[edit]

.... and in Georgian it would be BAGRATIONI. So what's your point ? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.196.88.26 (talk) 10:39, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

"Bagration" is probably a greek root word[edit]

The word "Bagration" is probably a greek-root word, comes from "pangration" or in greek script "pagkration", from words "pan" means all and "kratos" means power. When, in greek, a noun makes an adjective, one form is the adding of an "i"* after the theme of the word (e.g. ouranos - ouranios οὐρανός οὐράνιος: heaven - heavenly). So, the word "pagkration" means "allmighty", something like the address "your majesty" for the western kings. The address "pangratie" (vocative case) is reasonable for the members of a royal family. "Pangration" is also aν ancient sport like wrestling in which the fighter gives all his power to win.


  • (the other form is the adding of "ik" -latin: "ic", e.g. basis - basic) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.107.197.214 (talk) 05:14, 11 June 2010 (UTC)

Any reason why Russian names are written against any convention but in infinitive phonetically like Pyotr while he is Peter, and that name is not pronounced in Russian as Pyotr but... say in phrase like Petra Bagrationa (of Peter Bagration) as Peter or Pehter or Pieter, now are standards established by either ISO or national conventions like the US Library of Congress transliteration table, why would Wikipedia use its own, crazy way or mutilating Russian names? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.25.192.142 (talk) 14:37, 16 May 2012 (UTC)

Reference #3 in Vietnamese[edit]

Not being a reader of Vietnamese, I guess it was a misplacement. Could the original write re-check, correct or explain why such a reference ?

Reference #3 in Vietnamese[edit]

Not being a reader of Vietnamese, I guess it was a misplacement. Could the original write re-check, correct or explain why such a reference ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.176.120.156 (talk) 15:58, 3 June 2012 (UTC)

UPDATE 2014[edit]

So I've decided to add numerous sections including his decicive involvment in some of the campaigns, wars, battles that are listed. I would be more than pleased if any other wikipedians assisted me and all the others who participate, with more information about Bagration's involvments in any of the wars he participated, with reference, source, quotes etc, the style that's being used right now. TheMightyGeneral (talk) 18:41, 25 January 2014 (UTC)