Talk:RV Polarstern

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Rename[edit]

This article was recently renamed to change the prefix from PFS to MV. For two reasons I believe this was done wrongly: Firstly the move was discussed here[[1]] instead of on this page with time for other editors to give their views; and secondly the wrong prefix was chosen. To my mind it should be RV to match the other German ships in List of research vessels by country. Therefore I propose that this article is renamed to RV Polarstern. Any comments? --Petecarney (talk) 00:12, 7 December 2008 (UTC)

it's perfectly proper to discuss this at the parent WikiProject. In fact, it will get better coverage there than here. MV is the correct prefix for a vessel powered by diesel engines. RV is not a recognised ship prefix, other articles should be moved. Mjroots (talk) 18:50, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

Requested move[edit]

I propose that this article is renamed to RV Polarstern, for the reason that today Google News has 9 hits for the proposed name, none for for the existing one . --Petecarney (talk) 19:49, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

Comment WP:SHIPS notified. Mjroots (talk) 09:15, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
It would be better in the future, Mjroots, if such notices were more neutral. — Bellhalla (talk) 13:21, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
Apologies if the message came across as anti-move. I did not support/oppose the proposal because I wasn't sure if RV was a valid prefix. It is not a common one, is it? That is why i raised it at the Wikiproject. WP:NC-S doesn't give a list of acceptable prefixes for ships. Mjroots (talk) 13:50, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
I've added a link to Ship prefix to the WP:NC-S page. Mjroots (talk) 19:25, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
Support the move as per the guideline on ship prefixes at Wikipedia:Naming conventions (ships). The guideline (nor any other that I'm aware of) makes no reference to a prefix not being acceptable in Wikipedia use [although I would personally support the establishment of such guidelines for the sake of clarity]. Based on Google search hits RV Polarstern clearly overshadows MV Polarstern (23 900 hits for "RV Polarstern", 191 for "MV Polarstern"). Therefore based on the current guidelines RV Polarstern would be the form to go for. — Kjet (talk · contribs) 09:47, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
Support. RV is a perfectly acceptable prefix for a research vessel. (There are quite a few instances of Wikipedia articles on ships using an "RV" prefix.) By the way, Kjet, the ship naming conventions page does say to not use prefixes for warships of navies that didn't use them (like the invented "IJN" for Imperial Japanese Navy ships, when that navy did not use that prefix). — Bellhalla (talk) 13:17, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
Support per Kjet and Bellhalla. Mjroots (talk) 11:10, 29 January 2009 (UTC)

This article has been renamed as the result of a move request. Vegaswikian (talk) 07:28, 30 January 2009 (UTC)