Talk:Radio Shalom (Paris)

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Did you know... that French broadcast regulators failed to mediate a dispute between four Jewish radio stations in Paris sharing the same frequency: Judaïques FM, RCJ, Radio J, and Radio Shalom?

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Did you know nomination[edit]

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by SL93 (talk) 08:23, 23 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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... that French broadcast regulators failed to mediate a dispute between four Jewish radio stations in Paris sharing the same frequency: Judaïques FM, RCJ, Radio J, and Radio Shalom? Source: "Saisi de l'affaire, le CSA a tenté une médiation, proposé une sortie par le haut avec un projet radiophonique pouvant les allier tous. Echec." https://www.liberation.fr/medias/1995/10/27/du-larsen-dans-les-radios-juives-les-quatre-stations-qui-se-partagent-le-948-ont-du-mal-a-cohabiter_145879/
- Reviewed: Ed Jasper, Nicholas Jakubovics, 2013 Norwegian Sámi parliamentary election (with North Calotte People)
- Comment: Radio Shalom is 5x, the others are new pages to enwiki. Highly unusual that so many stations are on one frequency. Two of the four just merged but otherwise all four had been on the air for nearly 40 years as part-time outlets. And they got surprising SIGCOV in the French media.

5x expanded by Sammi Brie (talk). Self-nominated at 04:15, 3 May 2022 (UTC).[reply]

Comment: What does "SIGCOV" mean? Shearonink (talk) 16:03, 19 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Shearonink: Significant coverage (to justify notability). Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 18:10, 19 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Sammi Brie Ah ok...thanks. Shearonink (talk) 18:20, 19 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

No more radio stations in DYK please, we've had far too many lately. Zin92 (talk) 07:46, 15 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I see you do not appreciate my attempt to add some diversity by writing about stations that don't have call sign titles and aren't in the US, Zin92... (Though seriously, I'm only doing/sending up pages as the backlog of the ones I have at DYK diminishes and not on a one-for-one basis. I do have three non-radio DYKs pending, which you might enjoy.) Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 07:54, 15 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Radio Shalom is better than the 4-letter radio DYKs. Happy for you to go ahead with Radio Shalom and non-radio DYKs. But can you agree to not nominate any more 4-letter radio DYKs? Many thanks Zin92 (talk) 10:13, 15 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Zin92 - I've seen many strange things here on WP but your Wiki-splaining to an editor with over 100K edits about How They Should Do Things? Maybe it's sarcasm and I am misinterpreting your tone?... Anyway, you're free to ignore Sammi Brie's DYK noms (along with the ever-growing backlog of DYK noms) and, of course, other editors don't have to follow your personal DYK pronouncements, WP-predilections, or Wiki-wishes. Cheers. Shearonink (talk) 15:37, 19 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: I am Reviewing this DYK Nom. Shearonink (talk) 15:37, 19 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Neutral: Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Cited: Interesting:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: Shearonink (talk) 16:03, 19 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Shearonink: Wanted to make sure you realized this is a four-article nomination! Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 03:07, 22 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Sammi Brie Yes, I did - thanks for making sure. I ran DYK Check plus the copyvio tool on all four articles etc. and they all passed muster. Shearonink (talk) 03:18, 22 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

It might be nice to have an ALT hook, maybe something slightly tweaked/perhaps more eye-catching like

ALT 1 ... that French broadcast regulators allowed four different radio Jewish stations - Judaïques FM, RCJ, Radio J, and Radio Shalom - to share the same frequency in Paris?Source: "Saisi de l'affaire, le CSA a tenté une médiation, proposé une sortie par le haut avec un projet radiophonique pouvant les allier tous. Echec." https://www.liberation.fr/medias/1995/10/27/du-larsen-dans-les-radios-juives-les-quatre-stations-qui-se-partagent-le-948-ont-du-mal-a-cohabiter_145879/

I think "failed to mediate a dispute" is the same as "allowed ... to share the same frequency" but it's up to you. Shearonink (talk) 03:32, 22 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I would not endorse this ALT1, Shearonink. The dispute occurred when the stations had already been on the frequency about a decade. France definitely herded some stations into shared-time arrangements and several frequencies in Paris are split two ways. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 03:42, 22 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Ah ok, my mistake - I misunderstood the exact circumstances. Maybe an ALT of your own flavor & choice then - I'm still amazed that you got 4 articles together for this DYK. Shearonink (talk) 03:59, 22 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I am putting a tick here

because the bot is not moving this into the approved area. There really is no other way to get all four in one hook—which is kind of why I did this. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 06:23, 22 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]