Talk:Rail accidents at Morpeth

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Image[edit]

There's an image of one of the Morpeth crashes here - http://www.todotren.com.ar/grandescatastrofes/morpeth.jpg - I think it is the 1984 crash.

That would be a good image to include, do you know the copyright status? Thryduulf 23:03, 2 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Nope, which is why I chose not to upload it, but instead link to it from here. Sad :( --Tagishsimon (talk)

I used to live very near the piece of line in question and remember the 1984 crash. There weren't any fatalities, although I can see that that's hard to believe from the photographs.

One of the houses in the photograph was dammaged quite severely, but luckily the occupants were away.

I don't remember any crash occuring in 1977 and am almost certain there was no fatal crash.

Will edit article since original authors have not.

Rewrite[edit]

I've separated the 1969 and 1984 accidents out in a rewrite of this article, and expanded it a bit using information from the official reports. Goose 19:53, 12 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Some of these report links are dead, and they also don't have any hits on http://web.archive.org . Maybe someone should try to dig these up again. 202.172.106.195 00:46, 19 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Radius of curve[edit]

The DoE report on the 1969 derailment says "The Down line transition into the Morpeth Curve starts at 16m 308 yards and is some 160 yards long. The total length of the curve, including its transitions, is 792 yds. The nominal curvature of the curve itself is 17 ch." but (at its para 33) notes “The radius of the curve proper was not quite regular and there was a slight outwards kink where the calculated radius reduced evenly from 17.2 ch. some 20 yds short of the point of derailment to 15.4 ch. at it and then increased evenly to 17.2 ch. some 10 yds beyond" which is roughly consistent with what the article lede says.

However, that is for the Down line. The 1984 derailment took place on the Up line; the covering letter for the report on that accident says "The Morpeth Curve is of some 14 chains radius (285 metres).". Para 5 of the report itself says "On the Up line the Morpeth Curve begins at 16 miles 50 chains which is nearly at the centre of the platform.... The curve in all is 34.8 chains (700m) long and consists of a transition curve 101 m long leading into a 285 m radius curve which extends for a further 77 m. There is then a transition curve 26 m long to a curve of 370 m radius which continues for 123 m. It then reduces over a transition curve 17 m long to 336 m radius which extends for 214 m where the final 144 m long transition curve begins. ". However, (para 6) "... Following the derailment, accurate measurements of radii of curvature were made and a reduced radius of 220m found over the first 10 m of the 285 radius curve." Rjccumbria (talk) 19:42, 16 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]