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Tools[edit]

Maybe there should be a section on common ranching tools and implements? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.148.87.5 (talk) 20:06, 11 December 2008 (UTC)

Abuse of hatnotes[edit]

The article currently begins with the hatnote "This article is about a type of land use and method of raising livestock. For information on people who handle cattle on ranches, see Cowboy." This reflects the fact that many incoming links to this article are of the form "cattle [[ranch]]er" rather than [[cattle rancher]]. Rather than abuse hatnotes in this manner, I recommend fixing the incoming links. Cattle rancher properly redirects to Cowman (profession), not to Ranch. 69.3.72.9 (talk) 15:50, 12 September 2010 (UTC)

There's a longer history here. "Rancher" was merged into this article a long time ago (Maybe there is an argument to break it back out). However, no self-respecting rancher will call himself a "cowman" except in jest. The alternative terms include cattleman, cow-calf man, stockman (as you know) and stockgrower. Please leave things alone where you have no idea of the reality on the situation. Montanabw(talk) 02:06, 13 September 2010 (UTC)

Images[edit]

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Historical image of a round up on a ranch near Cimarron, Colorado. While the fact that "The Cimarron" is a ranch isn't stated explicity, it doesn't refer to the Cimarron Territory - that wasn't in Colorado - the buildings shown are similar to File:RanchOklahoma.ws.jpg, and round-ups are, by definition, done at the ranch before moving out on the cattle drive.

Why is the image that is obviously not on a ranch keep getting added to this article, but the one that is a ranch gets removed? This isn't Cattle drive, the modern image has no place here. Adam Cuerden (talk) 00:02, 14 September 2010 (UTC)

The other one isn't necessarily a ranch, either, if you note the material with the image at commons. But upon reflection, it is a better image, which is why I came around to your thinking on the matter and left it. Nonetheless, I must correct some of your misunderstandings...The image to me appears to be a roundup bringing cattle near what is probably a railhead on the outside of a town. (I live in Montana, we still have old stock corrals sort of like that along the railroad tracks in a lot of small towns.) A roundup actually does NOT necessarily begin on the ranch, it begins wherever the cattle are! --which in the old days was often the open range, which was public land--and in modern times it often STILL is public land, only now a Forest service or BLM lease. They are brought to a central gathering point, at which time they have been "rounded up", post-tense, i.e. gathered in from wherever they were scattered to. Then once rounded up, they are driven (i.e. as in a cattle drive) to wherever they need to go: maybe to market, maybe to the home ranch for winter, maybe to a railhead (in the old days, especially) or, in modern times, into trucks to go wherever. Montanabw(talk) 20:30, 14 September 2010 (UTC)

Charros[edit]

Salamanca (Spain) is a province of the old region of León, not Castille. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.221.218.240 (talk) 21:06, 6 February 2013 (UTC)

Go ahead and fix. Montanabw(talk) 00:03, 8 February 2013 (UTC)