Talk:Realis mood

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Generic mood in German[edit]

What is meant by "In German, the same effect is obtained by the introduction of a particle," in the Generic mood section? I don't think this is right, but I can't find anything definite. German works similar to English in that the "Generic" mood can be formed by omitting the article, but a definite article can also be used. e.g. "Hasen sind schnell" translates as "Rabbits are fast," but "Die Hasen sind schnell" could be translated as "Rabbits are fast," or "The rabbits are fast," depending on context. --Okj579 (talk) 16:28, 9 November 2011 (UTC)

I've removed this section, because it was not written about the generic mood. It was put into the wrong section when it was moved over from Grammatical Mood (Original edit) Okj579 (talk) 05:09, 21 November 2011 (UTC)


The article refers to the subjunctive as referring to something desirable, but I don't think that's right, on two counts. First, if it's used that way, it ought to be equally applicable to things that are undesirable. Second, it can be used for possible outcomes which are neither desirable nor undesirable. "I doubt that he be a professor", is, I think, subjunctive, but this subject isn't my forte. --Marshall "Unfree" Price (talk) 01:13, 26 May 2014 (UTC)

"I doubt that he be a professor" would be a misuse of the subjunctive I think. In that statement, the speaker is expressing doubt about a 'fact'. The speaker is expressing the idea that 'That man is not a professor.' "I don't recommend he be a professor in the future" would be subjunctive. Here, the man in question is not a professor, and the speaker thinks it's a bad idea for him to go that route. This has to do with the speakers view or intent.

I think a better question of "Desirable" as an accurate word or not is illustrated better another way. "My brother works a hundred hours a week. He has a big family so it's necessary that he work so hard." This is, from the speakers standpoint, both a statement of fact and the way things ought to be. ~~ — Preceding unsigned comment added by Eggmann (talkcontribs) 13:47, 7 January 2015 (UTC)


We got along fine without moods. Now we need aspects!? --Marshall "Unfree" Price (talk) 01:26, 26 May 2014 (UTC)