Talk:Religion in India

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edit·history·watch·refresh Stock post message.svg To-do list for Religion in India:
  • get rid of weasel words in the article
  • Reach consensus on structure of the article.
  • Expand the lead.
  • Add figure/map in "Demographics".
  • Add content to "History"; summarise "History".
  • Add content to "Influence of religion on social life".
  • Add content to "Religious figures"
  • Consider creating a section "Influence of religion on national life" (or a similar name) which shall include topics like Religion and politics, religion and media, religion and education, communal harmony etc
  • Either create a separate section of problem, or, mention problems in appropriate places like "History", "Influence of religion on national life" etc.
  • Remain cautious about citing references, and citing them in proper way.
  • Remain cautious about the summary style. If necessary, create appropriate daughter articles.
  • Copy edit.
  • Peer review.

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Sathya Sai Baba[edit]

I don't think Sathya Sai Baba should be present in this article, at least without some solid qualification. It is true that his cult uses varied religious imagery, but that is a far cry from actually understanding the many and significant ways in which the major Indian Religions can not very well be reconciled.

Besides, the way the entry is worded is very ambiguous. It forgets to mention the strong suspicions that surround the person of Sathya Sai Baba, (as seen on his own article) and suggests that he is somehow recognized and accepted by all the major religions mentioned in the article. That is arguable at best. Islam, at the very least, is known for having little interest in mixing with other religions. If they made an exception for Sathya Sai Baba then this is major news and would create quite a comotion. I believe that they did not, however, and Sai Baba and his followers are just proclaiming what they want to believe in regardless of fact or permission.

I would personally prefer Sai Baba to be removed entirely from the article, but a simple rewording would probably suffice.

Best,

Luis.

I re-worded it but I think it is better to mention also some other Indian new religious movement to keep it balanced. By the way, the original Sai Baba did have both Muslim and Hindu followers and the Muslims allowed mixing in the case of Shirdi Sai Baba. Amazingly the statement of Sathya Sai Baba and his followers is not entirely untrue. Sathya Sai Baba does have some Muslim followers but they are few and mostly Shia Muslims or followers from small Muslim sects. Andries 19:21, 4 Feb 2004 (UTC)

Tribal religions[edit]

Shouldn't there be some mention of India's tribal religions here? I would add the details myself, but I was here LOOKING for those details ;D

Good idea but I hardly know anything about India tribal religion. Andries 19:02, 22 Apr 2004 (UTC)
Just thought I'd comment: unfortunately or fortunately, whatever, Christianity, Hinduism and Islam have all vied for the membership of tribals. Islamic conquerors of long ago converted them, Christian missionaries of today are very active all over the country trying to convert them, and Hindus run around telling them that their beliefs are really just a subset of Hinduism. There is a tribal commission in India today in charge of trying to maintain their autonomy from foreign (i.e. non-tribal) religions. Maybe later I'll try to work on it --LordSuryaofShropshire 22:58, Aug 31, 2004 (UTC)

I added the section Tribal religions in India and many more religions which were missing. some help will be appreciated to explain more about those religions. I am sure there are many more religions in India which we are missing.


Bhagwan Sri Sathya Sai Baba[edit]

Its always interesting to note that Sri Sathya Sai Baba becomes a point of discussion wherever the name appears!!!

Probably, Luis, may not be aware of the grassroot service work undertaken by the followers/devotees/fans of Bhagwan Sri Sathya Sai Baba which is not normally reported in the mainstream media as the volunteers would not like to be 'limelighted'. Luis, you should certainly make a visit to Puttaparthy and you will soon understand from where the "suspicion" surrounding SSSB arises from. Also, your query on Muslims' belief in SSSB too will be answered partially. Also, have patience and keep watching/observing closely SSSB and the developments at Puttaparthy in the next six years. Your query will be completely answered.


Please check the following link which is a recent story that is published in one of the leading newspapers of India on April 25, 2005.

http://cities.expressindia.com/fullstory.php?newsid=126199

There was always people around the world who condemns and criticises those who shared their Love and Affection with others. In a world where Jesus Christ was crucified what else can one expect? The people who throw dirt on others do so because the ego in them rebels against the slow and steady growth of Love in them.


Check this too...its an article that came on another leading daily in India on May 22, 2005.

http://www.hindu.com/thehindu/holnus/007200505221568.htm



Two other media reports that came in the end of May 2005.

http://www.canindianews.com/news/News/NewsArticle.asp?sdkjshdhsdkjs=sdhsjdhsdlsdjlksjdl;sd&NewsID=-643194774&sdhskjdhskjd=sdhsjkdhsjkdh

http://www.newindpress.com/NewsItems.asp?ID=IEA20050530025143&Page=A&Title=Southern+News+-+Andhra+Pradesh&Topic=0


http://www.hindustantimes.com/news/181_1391312,00410010.htm


A report that came in the second week of June 2005

http://www.newindpress.com/NewsItems.asp?ID=IEK20050613014508

Number of Sikhs[edit]

the number of sikhs given here (35 million) does not match the numbers in the sikhism article at Sikhism#Sikhs around the world (23 million). Both figures cannot be correct. Tomer TALK 22:20, August 31, 2005 (UTC)

The number of Sikhs in India won't exceed more then 25 million for sure. - India1989

2011 census expectations[edit]

Citation is from 2011. Not that it can be disputed, but the author provides no statistics and firmly believes on the basic social issues, such as Infant mortality, Gender discrimination. Such problems were never categorized under religious affiliation. Shall we find another good citation for confirming the higher birth rate? Or maybe just attribute it as according to... Bladesmulti (talk) 03:27, 3 November 2014 (UTC)

I think the Firstpost article is fine for the broad and reasonable claim being made in this wikipedia article, and serves as a useful secondary source since it summarizes a range of expert opinion (those of Ashish Bose, S.C. Gultai, and this EPW paper). Note that I have avoided citing the exact fertility, life-expectancy and child-mortality numbers because those seem undue in this article, and including them would require specifying the years the numbers correspond to, and differing opinions of whether the past trend is expected to continue etc. Some of those numbers, and that discussion, may however be relevant to articles such as Demographics of India, Female foeticide in India etc where we have the room to provide better context, and to cite a wider range of academic sources instead of summary piece that should suffice here (although again we have to keep in mind that just as demographic details are only a small part of Religion in India, population differences by religion are only one small aspect of Demographics of India). Pinging @VirajJDM: who may be interested in this discussion. Cheers. Abecedare (talk) 18:11, 3 November 2014 (UTC)
I had a doubt, that's why instead of reverting I thought of discussing. It sounds reasonable as Hindu population is about 8 times larger compared to Muslims in India. Nothing wrong with the citation. Bladesmulti (talk) 04:57, 4 November 2014 (UTC)