Talk:Friends meeting house

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On 20 January 2023, it was proposed that this article be moved to Quaker meeting house. The result of the discussion was no consensus.

List of articles on Friends Meeting Houses[edit]

Would it be a good idea to sort this list by country. Vernon White ^{. . . Talk} 22:03, 30 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Capitalisation[edit]

What is the correct form - "Friends meeting house" or "Friends Meeting House"? The article seems inconsistent. --Redrose64 (talk) 17:44, 27 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 20 January 2023[edit]

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: no consensus. (closed by non-admin page mover) Vpab15 (talk) 22:19, 9 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Friends meeting house → Quaker meeting house – for consistency with Quakers and List of Quaker meeting houses. Marcocapelle (talk) 13:08, 20 January 2023 (UTC)— Relisting. —usernamekiran (talk) 03:41, 29 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Weak oppose. Pro: "Quaker" is unambiguous, although I do not know in what other context the phrase "friends meeting house" might arise. Con: "Friends meeting house" is the WP:COMMONNAME, seen in e.g. Friends meeting houses in Pennsylvania and the majority of article names within Category:Quaker meeting houses in both UK and US. – Fayenatic London 16:25, 20 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support per WP:PRECISE, WP:COMMONNAME and WP:CONSISTENT. The current title is ambiguous and potentially confusing, as the most common name for this group is "Quakers" as evidenced by the main article being titled as such. Rreagan007 (talk) 20:08, 20 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support - I'm not sure that "Friends meeting house" is commonly known (amongst non-Quakers, or is it nonQuakers these days?) to refer to Quakers. Oculi (talk) 01:14, 21 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. The vast majority of notable buildings in this class are known as "Friends meeting house". -- Necrothesp (talk) 13:51, 23 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support. For the article about the general idea of a meeting house (as opposed to for a specific individual meeting house), it's most useful to use the WP:COMMONNAME for the religious group whose meeting house it is – i.e., in this case, Quakers. ModernDayTrilobite (talk • contribs) 19:52, 23 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. They're almost always called "Friends meeting house" (WP:COMMONNAME, both a common name and an official name) and even if they weren't, there would be a strong reason for deference to the term Quakers use per WP:ABOUTSELF. If there's a desire for consistency, move List of Quaker meeting houses to List of Friends meeting houses, but there's no need at all for consistency with the topic "Quakers" - we can and do use specific terminology, so List of synagogues rather than List of Jewish places of worship or the like. I'm not sold confusion is a problem either - the lede section will clear up someone expecting "friends" in a non-Quaker context. Confusion is mostly a worry when there's two encyclopedic topics, but an encyclopedia article on the "Meeting house for buddies" interpretation will probably never exist. (As yet an additional point on confusion - to the extent it's confusing, it's confusing in the "real world" when someone drives past a place that says "Society of Friends" outside. Basically it's not Wikipedia's fault - we're introducing the reader to a real fact that some might find confusing at first, rather than creating ambiguity ourselves.) SnowFire (talk) 15:46, 8 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.