Talk:Republic of Canada

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Correct flag?[edit]

I've noticed that there appears to be a discrepancy between the flag[1] presented with the article, which is described in the caption as representing the "Republic of Canada" and a flag[2] appearing on the website linked at the bottom of the article,[3] which is labelled as being that of the "Republic of Canada". Considering that that website is at present the only source of information we are provided with in order to substantiate the claim at hand, in my opinion, the apparent discrepancy should be treated seriously. The version with the word "Liberty" appearing on it is described on the site as the "Upper Canada Reformist flag", a more generalized descriptor than the one for the other flag containing the two stars and a crescent shape, which is clearly ascribed to the "Republic of Canada". Perhaps the "Liberty" flag which is currently presented with the article is in fact that of the general "reformist" or "radical" movement itself, while the other is in reality that of the Republic of Canada. In my opinion, we should either replace the existing one in the article with the more solidly referenced alternative, or provide reliable substantiation for the version we're currently displaying. cheers Deconstructhis (talk) 07:36, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

Hey there, got your message on my talk page. I'll leave the flag up for the time, because I have no way to back this up, but I live in Alberta, Canada, and my high school class several years ago spent considerable time covering the Republic of Canada. The flag which was on the page was claimed in several of our textbooks to be the flag of the Republic of Canada. The reason I cannot verify this is because I forget the titles of the books (it was several years back, as I said). I'm attempting to track them down, however, at which point I will, with any luck, be able to prove its use as the flag of Canada.
As for the other flag, I find it very unlikely that it was used. Despite the fact it was not covered in the aforementioned books, it includes two elements which make it unlikely in my opinion that it was used. One is the crescent - crescents are generally used primarily on the flags of Muslim nations (Turkey being the most famous example). Second is the use of the French tricolor, as this was supposedly used during the Upper Canada rebellion - an area primarily British.
Anyway, I've rambled on too long here. Be back to check for a reply at some point. Mnmazur (talk) 05:26, 21 May 2009 (UTC)
Hello Mnmazur, unfortunately, that's not how Wikipedia works in terms of the need for providing reliable referencing for material that's added to the encyclopedia. Unless a specific reference from a reliable source can be provided for the information that's being added, we are bound by policy not to include it. Personal opinions don't count here, it's not an acceptable reference for someone to simply say they "remember seeing it somewhere", specific details must be provided if the legitimacy of the material is challenged. cheers Deconstructhis (talk) 14:48, 21 May 2009 (UTC)
I realize that, hence my saying, "I'll leave the flag up for the time, because I have no way to back this up..." As I said, I'm looking for the source, and when I find it, I will re-add the flag with appropriate reference. Mnmazur (talk) 23:21, 21 May 2009 (UTC)
Verified the flag in Flagscan: The Newsletter of the Canadian Flag Association, Issue 8, Volume 11, No. 4, Winter 1987-88. Separately, the flag appears on the masthead of "The Rochester Volunteer," a newspaper published by William Lyon Mackenzie. I cannot verify the colours. (Mapleski (talk) 21:45, 27 May 2009 (UTC))