Talk:Republican Party (United States)

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[edit] Far-Right

First of all, be nice, everyone. This is wikipedia, not a political forum. Please don't try arging your opinions here. Obama is a centre-right conservative on the political spectrum, not a "socialist." But what I think is of note, is that on the political spectrum, the Republican Party is far-right. They are not the Nazis, but they are very far to the right. I think that "far-right" should be added to the article. I added it one time with a reference but it was deleted. The same thing originally happened when I put "Socialist Factions" on the Democrats until I explained it using . sbrianhicks (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 17:50, 20 January 2010 (UTC).

In terms of the United States, the Republican party is Center Right and the Democratic Party is Center left. In terms of some countries in Europe, The Republican party IS far Right, and the Democratic party is Center Right. But this is a US Political party, and therefore we should follow the US scale for political alignments. --Rockstonetalk to me! 18:43, 20 January 2010 (UTC)
I think that some of the Republican party is center-right, while some is far right. Trying to judge the whole based on the visible minority is not really accurate. Soxwon (talk) 18:56, 20 January 2010 (UTC)
Actually Wikipedia is an international encyclopedia and the political spectrum should be based on the spectrum used in advanced countries (ie with access to the internet). That being said I think Right-wing should be added to political position. I do not think the party is "far right" because far right is more or less fascism and I don't think they're that far to the right.--Sparrowhawk64 (talk) 03:53, 31 January 2010 (UTC)

[edit] From what perspective??

Both US political parties are centrist from a world perspective, with the Republican party leaning slightly right, and the Democrats leaning slightly left. This is why the parties are referred to as conservative and liberal', respectively, within the US. I think it is safe to say that the Republican Party is center-right, like the UK Conservatives--probably the closest international comparison to the Republicans. Just because the GOP might be far right of YOU doesn't mean it is far right enough to be classified as "Right". Again, please compare to the UK Conservatives... This should not be disputed. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 155.68.104.201 (talk) 02:13, 28 January 2010 (UTC)

The British Conservative Party is far more moderate than the Republican Party, they support single-payer health care system and don't even mention abortion in their policies or actively campaign against it like the Republicans do, support some LGBT Rights and don't use LGBT people as boogy men to scare out votes, and actually believe that climate change is happening and is heavily influenced by humans, and by and large leave religion out of their policies. There is no comparison between the two parties. The Conservatives are center-right and the Republicans are center-right to right-wing.--Sparrowhawk64 (talk) 00:38, 7 February 2010 (UTC)

[edit] Reiterate.

The GOP is a member of the International Democrat Union, and most political parties in the IDU are identified as "Centre-Right". The GOP should be labeled "Center-Right". I rest my case. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 155.68.104.201 (talk) 02:19, 28 January 2010 (UTC)

Once again most parties in the IDU especially the European ones favor single-payer healthcare. Republicans? No. Other European centre-right parties favor abortion, Republicans? No. They're right-wing.--Sparrowhawk64 (talk) 05:41, 28 January 2010 (UTC)

This is not europe. Why would we let euros define our language and political parties. The US republicain party or the US Democrat party is an animal all to theirselves. Whether the RP is center right or far right is just persons perspective and not a fact that can be proven. In this country, each party contains a little and a lot of far right far left center right and center left. Just look at the demos they got the blue dogs, i.e. Repubs and the RP has the tea baggers i.e. far right. Either party cannot be defined by your or euro labels. Dtmckay (talk) 04:16, 12 February 2010 (UTC)

[edit] Dead Links

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Link reference 27 (re: welfare programs success) is dead.

Should read:

... "which was signed into law by Democratic President Clinton, and which limited eligibility for welfare, successfully leading to many former welfare recipients finding jobs.[1]"

X mark.svgN Not done as requested - used {{Wayback}} instead.  Ronhjones  (Talk) 22:03, 4 February 2010 (UTC)
Yes check.svgY Done - Alternative links found. Set Sail For The Seven Seas 331° 47' 30" NET 22:07, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

[edit] Another attempt to reach a consensus on the position of the GOP along the political spectrum

I have sensed a growing lack of consensus with regards to the position of the GOP on the political spectrum. I think it is vital that we line up each of the positions of the GOP and assess where on the spectrum that position places the GOP. After we have collected enough positions, we can make a judgement of where on the spectrum the GOP falls.

Positions of the GOP
Issue Position
Abortion Pro-life
Taxes
Welfare
Health Care
Homosexuality

Sjrsimac (talk) 06:16, 19 February 2010 (UTC)

The original edit summery for the above comment speaks volumes: "I added a table to help us synthesize our conversation about the position of the GOP."
Isn't the "prime directive" of Wikipedia supposed to be reliable sources, not synthesis? At the risk of being labeled a heretic, I'd suggest that in the absence of a preponderance of neutral reliable sources supporting a particular 'directional' labels for the U.S. political parties, perhaps we're better off writing about demonstrable positions on specific issues and avoiding the labels entirely. Fat&Happy (talk) 07:12, 19 February 2010 (UTC)
I strongly agree with FatHappy. In light of this new reasoning, I recommend that the "political positions" section of the infobox be removed.Sjrsimac (talk) 15:49, 19 February 2010 (UTC)
Strongly disagree, This issue has been debated several times and has always come back to center-right. Soxwon (talk) 16:14, 19 February 2010 (UTC)
I am a well-known opponent of editorial labeling; the intent of Wikipedia is to present the views of the neutral reliable sources, not what the consensus of what Wikipedia editors believe what label is best applied. Given that there seems to be no consensus amongst the sources, it's more prudent to deal with specific issues rather than a disputed, unclear, or otherwise subjective label. //Blaxthos ( t / c ) 17:49, 19 February 2010 (UTC)


[edit] Abolitionism

PLEASE! Someone introduce the word 'ABOLITIONIST' to the beginning of the article describing the Republican party's origin!! The party was founded by FREE-SOIL, FREE-LABOR ABOLITIONISTS in 1854, predominantly on Christian idealisms against enslavement!! Expansionist perspectives were universal across the political spectrum of the day, both Right and Left - Westward expansion was NOT the exclusive domain of the founders of the GOP! This needs to be clarified in the article!

jlewis 3-18-2010 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.214.31.202 (talk) 08:55, 18 March 2010 (UTC)


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