Talk:Rhode Island

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Former good article Rhode Island was one of the Geography and places good articles, but it has been removed from the list. There are suggestions below for improving the article to meet the good article criteria. Once these issues have been addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake.
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edit·history·watch·refresh Stock post message.svg To-do list for Rhode Island:

Here are some tasks awaiting attention:
  • Article requests: trim history section since History of RI already has its own article
  • Cleanup: culture; food; popular culture; Rhode Island firsts, perhaps merge into culture with prose
  • Expand: demographics with prose concerning notable trends, e.g. massive influx of hispanics; culture; economy and its current trends, i.e. job loss
  • Wikify: references into standard format using cite web and cite book templates

Proposed merge with Arcadia, Rhode Island[edit]

Arcadia, Rhode Island doesn't seem to have enough notability of it's own. Skr15081997 (talk) 04:48, 31 December 2013 (UTC)

@Skr15081997:, agreed with the proposal. OccultZone (Talk) 19:10, 13 February 2014 (UTC)

Proposed merge with Yawgoog, Rhode Island[edit]

Yawgoog, Rhode Island doesn't has enough notability. Skr15081997 (talk) 04:51, 31 December 2013 (UTC)

Proposed merge with Woodville, Rhode Island[edit]

A separate article named Villages in Rhode Island should be created and the previous merger proposals by me should be done on that page. Skr15081997 (talk) 04:58, 31 December 2013 (UTC)

Regarding all three of the villages' merge proposals above[edit]

As far as I know none of these three are legally/officially recognized places and as such have no inherent claim to notability (as Skr15081997 points out). With no sources whatsoever, I agree they should be merged. But I think it makes more sense to merge them into the next level up in the hierarchy of legally recognized places (e.g. Woodville merged into Richmond and/or Hopkinton) rather than the state page. --— Rhododendrites talk |  06:36, 31 December 2013 (UTC)

I support "Rhododendrites" modified merge proposal above. There's no need to merge info on several obscure places into the article about the state that they are all apparently in. Guy1890 (talk) 06:42, 31 December 2013 (UTC)
Support Per Guy1890. OccultZone (Talk) 19:43, 13 February 2014 (UTC)

Creator's Response[edit]

As far as notability goes, these villages are real places but are not dominant enough as villages to have their own post offices. I can see a merger with the page "Villages in Rhode Island", but merging them with Rhode Island seems a bit strange. The page for Rhode Island talks only about the state; it wouldn't make sense for details about one or two small villages to be thrown in. — Preceding unsigned comment added by P. Pearl-Lee C. Spears-Harris (talkcontribs) 13:25, 31 December 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for the contributions -- regardless of where the information goes it's material that's worth having. You may already know all this, but for the benefit of anyone who might not: Exceptions for when notability has to be established via significant coverage in reliable sources are pretty limited -- including legally recognized populated places, but not, as far as I know, villages (although they may certainly exist and may have historical significance, they don't get an automatic pass without a bunch of references). I'm not aware of any precedent for having a standalone article about villages in a particular state (there's Category:Villages in Rhode Island but no standalone article for RI or any other state--as far as I know). I think what makes the most sense (as above) is to merge them into the most appropriate one or two town/city/county pages. What do you think? --— Rhododendrites talk |  15:44, 31 December 2013 (UTC)

User: P. Pearl-Lee C. Spears-Harris :I would definitely agree. In fact, I have a list of villages that should be merged. In the Hopkinton page, there is a small section called "Villages" where they are listed but I do not believe one exists on the Richmond page.

I think the pages for Ashaway, Rhode Island, Bradford, Rhode Island, Hope Valley, Rhode Island and Rockville, Rhode Island have enough notability to keep their own pages. Hopkinton City Historic District should also be left alone.

I think the villages in Richmond have enough notability to remain their own separate pages (after all, people in Richmond are more familiar with the villages than the town itself.) Woodville, Rhode Island is a village of Hopkinton and Richmond and should have a merger with both, but if it was the only merger with Richmond that would be a bit strange; I think if we are to merge Woodville it should only be merged with Hopkinton.

Addressing the comment above on notability for places: It is my understanding that any of the following qualify as proof of notability for places. Legal recognition is not needed. Those things would be: Entry in GNIS; the existence at any point in time of census data specifically for that place name; being at any point in time on an official map; or the existence at any point in time of a post office for that place. I am not able to extensively search historic map records, but Yawgoog failed all the others. That is why I nominated it for deletion. There is material on the scout camp with the same name; lots of it in fact. But nothing for a village or settlement by that name. John from Idegon (talk) 01:02, 1 January 2014 (UTC)

Yawgoog...I do believe it is a village but perhaps have been mistaken. I have heard numerous times of the Scout Camp being located in "Yawgoog". What official map sources did you check that contained the others?

Rhode island — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.224.29.193 (talk) 04:34, 16 February 2014 (UTC)

--206.53.74.104 (talk) 18:36, 5 April 2014 (UTC)I love Rhode Island