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An error here[edit]

On 1st December 2008 a campaign using the popular internet social networking websites Bebo, Facebook and Myspace was set-up to try and help "Risk" Astley get this years British Christmas Number 1.[11]

please fix it

Fixed Shazz0r (talk) 21:59, 9 December 2008 (UTC)

Locking of the article[edit]

This needs to be locked. Ive noticed heaps and heaps of vandalism. Need I say More? SSholden (talk) 02:11, 20 August 2008 (UTC)

Rick was commissioned in the SAS before he hit puberty?[edit]

In the first papragraph it says "In 1979, Astley received a direct entry commission into 22nd SAS Regiment after successfully completing service with the Honourable Balloon Artillery Corps, although was injured during an early training jump and was forced to resign his commission." Assuming his birthday is listed correctly as 1966, that would make him 13 when he got his commission. I can't be the only one who noticed this! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.57.117.48 (talk) 08:07, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

Astley music used in the American invasion of Panama[edit]

I have yet to find a verifiable source for this, but just came across a reference to Astley's music being used by American troops in their invasion of Panama in 1989. Info on the invasion can be seen at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_invasion_of_Panama, while a reference to the use of rock music is also found in the Noriega article at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manuel_Noriega.

The reference to Astley came in the 3rd episode of the 17th series of Never Mind the Buzzcocks. I personally find this very humourous, but also consider it a reasonable addition to the article here. Is anyone else familiar with this use? --198.96.36.120 (talk) 22:25, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

Rick Roll equals 532 million hits?[edit]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lVnd36HU1io —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.220.90.8 (talk) 18:37, 2 December 2009 (UTC)

I don't think so.. does anyone wanna fix it? -(BrutusCirrus (talk) 21:27, 16 March 2008 (UTC))

RickRoll...again[edit]

Has Rick Astley himself ever commented re: the rickroll phenomenon? Just curious. Alcy (talk) 22:17, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

A current pic of Rick Astley would be cool --Rusober (talk) 02:12, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
some info here [1] on what Rick thinks of the internet fad. Not sure if it's a legitimate news site, though. — Sandtiger 20:30, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
The only thing on that site right now is a cybersquatter's page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 172.191.158.158 (talk) 14:20, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
News clip about this, at the end it has a comment about Rick's opinion. This is not a rick roll. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9tD4Tgx1fsU&feature=related 131.91.92.184 (talk) 18:42, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

Photo[edit]

A photo of Rick should be added to this page, perhaps along with an image from the album cover. LLP 15:31, 1 January 2007 (UTC)

Voice[edit]

Does Rick Astley have extra vocal cords? 168.209.98.35 04:10, 7 Apr 2004 (UTC)

If you're speaking of the deep and forceful presence of his unusual voice, the word is that he purposefully enjoys an extremely high fiber diet and refrains from having a bowel movement for at least 48 hours before a singing engagement.
I'm going to try this. 76.102.62.11 21:48, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
24 hours so far.

Personal life[edit]

I see "so that he could raise a family" but there's no mention of a wife or girlfriend...no mention of children. Is it possible to get more personal info in this article?
I decided to add it myself.

Asia[edit]

Rick Astley also became very popular in Asia. I hope that some sort of statistics can be added to show how he performed in the music charts.

Soul[edit]

In what parallel universe are 'Vincent', 'Nature Boy' and 'Close To You' defined as 'soul standards'? Widmerpool 12:09, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7sK3AqFYAWQ <-- HABEEB IT.

(That video has been removed due to "terms of use" violations, btw)Rusober (talk) 02:14, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

Needs more information on the RickRoll'D internet phenomenon[edit]

I'll get information on it and when more info's out...

Here, I found this link fairly informative but I'm not good at writing articles: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHg5SJYRHA0 SockMonkeh 21:12, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

If I hadn't seen that link so many times already... I woulda clicked it >.< That being said, I don't think the fad started on IGN. I remember reading something about "duckrolling" and 4chan, which would make far more sense. There is no question that gaming forums helped proliferate the meme (and Seth McFarlane didn't help at all), but it would be surprising if something this random got started on one.Jklharris 07:53, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
This, like every other funny meme started at 4chan, more accurate; /v/ "Posting links to videogame-related (or not) Youtube videos is very popular on /v/. On March 29th 2007, there were a large number of threads discussing the recently-released GTA4 trailer. A mischievous Anonymous posted a Youtube link to what he described as a "GTA4 gameplay vid". At the time there was much speculation surrounding the new GTA installment, so the link drew a large amount of curiosity, curiosity that was quickly squashed upon finding that the youtube link actually directed users to the music video of "Never Gonna Give You Up" by Rick Astley. Many /v/irgins shat bricks when they found a skinny white boy singing like a black man instead of anything even remotely videogame related, and cries of "ONDORE!" soon echoed within the commentary of that particular video. The residents of /v/ found this hilariously absurd, and soon enough, Anonymous stealthily inserted links to this video in many threads on /v/, resulting in much hilarity when other posters get a vintage 80's surprise. Due to the fact that this meme relies on cunning deception much like Duckroll, the practice of tricking people into viewing this song is called the Rickroll, trolls who do it are called Rickrollers, those who fall for it exlaim they've been 'rickrolled,' etc. etc. etc. This meme has also leaked over to /x/, and then to the rest of 4chan."
I was RickRoll'd by an LUElinker. It's the biggest craze there.
See also the article for Never Gonna Give You Up and associated talk page. Snarfies 16:09, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
This did indeed start out, as far as I know, on 4chan. The original craze was "Duckrolling", where users post a link to another post on the forum. Thinking it's a relevant link, many users click on it, only to find it is a picture of a duck with wheels - the infamous "Duckroll". It's then traditional to post a Duckroll elsewhere on 4chan (almost always 4chan/b/). Then someone came up with the idea of Rickrolling - say "There's a youtube video of this" and post the Rick Astley link. A newer version has the song playing over an image of the Duckroll, cementing this as an offshoot of Duckrolling. However, as Wiki doesn't like mention of the 4chan trolls, I'll refrain from adding this into the article and leave it for a more respected user Mysticaloctopus 11:53, 24 May 2007

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the wording should be changed from initial "duckroll" image to duckroll image or duckrolling image. it would help if the image of a duckroll was described since there's no stub on it.
As far as I know what you are saying is true. Problem is, there's no way to prove it, and many wikipedia editors are uptight blockheads who would rather have proper procedure than truth, so any statements to that effect would be quickly zotted out of the article. See also Talk:Loituma_Girl#Origin. Snarfies 03:56, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
Wikipedia is about verifiability, not truth. If you have a problem with that, try effecting a change in policy instead of bitching and ignoring policy. DarkSaber2k 13:34, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
Indeed. It started on 4chan's /v board. An anonymous user posted a link to Youtube, claiming it to be pornography of some kind. However, the link actually pointed to the video for "Never Gonna Give You Up" and from there the phenomenon spread. Naturally, once it hit the World of Warcraft forums, it exploded in popularity. The Family Guy episode recently, however, is not believed widely to be influenced by this at all, since it mentions nothing of Rickrolling, and is merely a hilarious coincidence. I don't really see why there can't be a small paragraph or mention of Rickrolling on this page. There's no good reason why a trivia/pop culture reference which appears on MANY MANY other pages in very similar styles can't be on Wikipedia.TheMadRussian 04:23, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
I'm pretty sure it wasn't /v/. And about the Family Guy thing, Family Guy couldn't possibly have referenced it, given the time it makes one episode of a TV show and the fact that it was shown barely a month after the meme began. (whoops I forgot to sign my thing forever ago)Razorthe6249th 12:39, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
Whoever adds this section should probably make a reference to the Goatse.cx entry as well.Branciforte3241 01:43, 5 June 2007 (UTC)
I think this is a large enough phenomenon to warrant an entry. RickRoll could redirect to this article. Has its own site now: http://www.yougotrickrolled.com/ Jredwards 23:56, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

It wasn't originally a fake link to porn. Here's from Lurkmore:

Rickroll
Posting links to videogame-related (or not) Youtube videos is very popular on /v/. On March 29th 2007, there were s large number of threads discussing about the recently-released GTA4 trailer. A mischievous Anonymous posted a Youtube link to what he described as a "GTA4 gameplay vid". At the time there was much speculation surrounding the new GTA installment, so the link drew a large amount of curiosity, curiosity that was quickly squashed upon finding that the youtube link actually directed users to the music video of "Never Gonna Give You Up" by Rick Astley. Many /v/irgins shat bricks when they found a skinny white boy singing like a black man instead of anything even remotely videogame related, and cries of "ONDORE!" soon echoed within the commentary of that particular video. The residents of /v/ found this hilariously absurd, and soon enough, Anonymous stealthily inserted links to this video in many threads on /v/, resulting in much hilarity when other posters get a vintage 80's surprise. Due to the fact that this meme relies on cunning deception much like Duckroll, the practice of tricking people into viewing this song is called the Rickroll, trolls who do it are called Rickrollers, those who fall for it exlaim they've been 'rickrolled,' etc. etc. etc. It soon leaked over to /x/, and then to the rest of 4chan.
The most common video used to Rickroll is this: http://youtube.com/watch?v=7sK3AqFYAWQ However, be wary, as sly /v/irgins have uploaded the 'Never Gonna Give You Up" music video themselves, and they have also started to link to other Rick Astley songs, such as "Take Me to Your Heart."
Since Rickroll has been used on Seth MacFarlane's cartoon Family Guy[5], it is now an old and tired meme.
It should also be noted that Youtube Rickrolls have been posted so often in gamefaqs, their TOS has been amended in which posting a Youtube video with Rick Astley's song "Never Gonna Give You Up" is now a violation with the note being, we shit you not, "Posting a RickRoll? That's a paddlin'." -Annon3
Just because the song was used in Family Guy does not mean it was a 'rickroll'. Family Guy has a long history of spoofing songs, such as 'Shepoopie' (however it's spelt) in Patriot Games, or 'Somewhere that's green' as sung by Herbert. Regardless, unless sources are provided to prove it is indeed a 'phenomenon' (never can spell this right) then the information should not be included due to the core polciy of verification and the guidelines for neologisms. DarkSaber2k 13:31, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia contains plenty of other references to memes, none of which can be provided to wikipedia's harsh and demanding standards. But they still get a mention. --86.128.77.245 13:29, 1 July 2007 (UTC)

WP:OTHERCRAPEXISTS, We aren't talking about those memes, we're discussing this one. DarkSaber2k 08:04, 2 July 2007 (UTC)

I believe it is notable and the source was reliable. the_undertow talk 09:39, 2 July 2007 (UTC)
One source of merely local (i.e. Wigan area) significance is far short of the 'wide usage/mentions in reliable secondary sources' that is required for a neologism/meme to be included in Wikipedia. DarkSaber2k 09:44, 2 July 2007 (UTC)
Is the Internet local? the_undertow talk 04:08, 4 July 2007 (UTC)
No, but the Internet can surely provide more than 1 reliable source for such a 'wide-spread phenomenon'? DarkSaber2k 08:02, 4 July 2007 (UTC)
Does Carson Daly using it on his show count? Crystallina 04:05, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
Only if it's verifiable through reliable sources. DarkSaber2k 08:36, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
21 June 2007 episode of Carson Daly, quote, "You just got RickRolled."Bubbaprog 10:26, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

I'd just like to point out there is a way to prove it was 4chan that started it; if one were to go through the early comments you'll see a change around page 750/749 from nostalgic posts reminiscing about rick to posts questioning why the video isn't GTA4. Now, you may argue that it had been used before but no one posted any comments those times. But considering how many comments were posted most of which referencing /v/ and other 4chan memes, you'd have to wonder why no one else said anything about their internet communities if it had indeed started on those. 4chan also has a bit of a semi-followed rules 1&2 which say one mustn't speak of 4chan, which would also lessen(abet minimally) the likelihood of their doing it first if it had indeed been around before the GTA trailer.

Found a citation: http://www.cwyohba.org/noexit/news/rickastley/rickastley.html (and no, that's not a rickroll in disguise) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.255.77.81 (talk) 22:30, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

Needs far less information on the RickRoll'D internet phenomenon[edit]

Seriously —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sweetnorbert (talkcontribs) 17:27, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

Basic career information[edit]

This article lacks information on what record labels distributed Astley's albums; if memory serves me correctly, RCA distributed two of his albums in the United States during a brief period in the 1980's. Be sure to include the labels in sequence on the Infobox musical artist once verified. - B.C.Schmerker 16:02, 25 June 2007 (UTC)

"Rick Roll"[edit]

The "Rick Roll" section needs some serious help. It's hardly limited to one YouTube video, nor even to YouTube. It's been featured on a number of TV shows (Robot Chicken is but one), and other media (xkcd, etc.). --Kickstart70-T-C 08:11, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

Does it really need to be the #2 section on this page? Seems more appropriate is a Trivia section or link to a page that specifically talks about it on 'internet memes' or something, eh?

or maybe even deleted entirely!Sweetnorbert (talk) 17:18, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

Video blog rant -- where is it?[edit]

"Although the idea originally developed as a joke, Astley himself was reportedly unimpressed at the use of his hit single as a target for mockery and posted a rant against the craze on his blog, a video of which ironically went on to prove even more popular."

Where is this so called rant of his? If it's even more popular than the actual video, how come I can't find it (yet I can find over thousands of videos of "Never Gonna Give You Up" labeled as "RickRoll")? It would be nice if whoever found this rant could post a link to it, you know sort of state the reference. I'm pretty sure if it was as popular as this article says or if it even exists at all, I would be able to find it on YouTube without even having to ask here. --Machriderx (talk) 23:42, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

In addition, this interview seems to counter the idea that he hates it:

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/webscout/2008/03/rick-astley-kin.html —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.98.249.59 (talk) 01:20, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

Soul standards[edit]

Current article reads: In 2005 Astley released the album Portrait in which he covered many classic soul standards such as "Vincent"[3], "Nature Boy" and "Close to You".

I don't think "Vincent" is "soul" in anyone's books. Ordinary Person (talk) 03:29, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

NPOV on Nick Lowe reference[edit]

The paragraph that refers to Nick Lowe rhyming "Astley" with "ghastly" feels a bit derisive and seems like it would be outside the spirit of NPOV. I don't feel comfortable making an edit, though, since I'm a WikiRookie. Thoughts? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.82.211.121 (talkcontribs)

Someone has fixed this. --Xyzzyplugh (talk) 17:57, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

Leo Laporte[edit]

"Astley is the twin brother of radio personality Leo Laporte".

I'm pretty sure this isn't true..... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.40.107.112 (talk) 22:31, 23 March 2008 (UTC)

Paragraph in the middle of Rickroll section[edit]

No sources, and while a fraction of it is true it says on another page he won't try and capitalise on the meme. The paragraph is written in a definitely not encyclopedic style, and it contains a great deal of opinion. While some effort should be made to salvage the extent of rick rolling on 2008's april fools day, what's there at the moment is utter trash (86.143.12.235 (talk) 17:48, 3 April 2008 (UTC))

External links[edit]

Added an external link to an Unofficial Rick Astley website, as the "external link" section looked a bit sparse. Red dwarf (talk) 14:33, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

Recent vandalism[edit]

This article has been the subject of repeated vandalism for the past few days. I restored the last correct version (Revision as of 07:52, April 13, 2008) of this page. No new relevant change has been done since then. I will set a semi-protection if this childish behaviour continues. Glloq (talk) 09:57, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

Yes, it looks good now. thank you! and whoever put up that picture, you're my hero! One of his better photographs. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.245.36.179 (talk) 00:24, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

Aphex Twin[edit]

Is the article correct in saying that Astley was part of a band called "the Aphex Twins"? If so, did that band have any relation to *the* Aphex twin? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.57.90.83 (talk) 05:48, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

Newton le Willows is in Merseyside but somebody keeps changing it to Lancashire. Can the moderator make sure it is corrected (look up Newton le willows on Wiki to verify) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.242.136.126 (talk) 22:53, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

Re-add Rick photo?[edit]

Is it ok to re-add Image:NeverGonnaGiveYouUp_official_photo.jpg (was in a July 31 version of the article) --EarthFurst (talk) 03:50, 11 August 2008 (UTC)\

I say so. Equaaldoors (talk) 04:34, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

Best Act Ever[edit]

We’ve been “Rickrolled!” (01/10/20081)

Balthazar (T|C) 23:33, 1 October 2008 (UTC)

way ahead of you, i've added it already to his web page.

but im not a good writer outside of ED, you might rewrite it, oh i dunno...all of it

-anon —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.173.47.87 (talk) 00:53, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

edit two: well, it was there, but got reverted from vandalism. but like i said before im not any good at this shit if i dont have the freedom to make fun of my subject as much as possable.

Current photo[edit]

i dunno the legal mumbo jumbo behind using a photo from an official fan web site, but a current picture (as of 2004 i belive) of rick can be found on his fan website at http://www.rickastley.co.uk/gallery/FarEast/Singfest04.jpg

with some cropping and editing we can possably add a picture to the article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.173.49.195 (talk) 08:34 7 October 2008

Just in!

From Rick's website:

Rick Not Asked By MTV

30th October 2008

Contrary to many stories published this week by various sources, Rick has not been asked by MTV to perform at their European Music Awards on November 6th. He has received an invitation to attend the ceremony but has not yet made up his mind as to whether he will make the journey up to Liverpool. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.141.196.252 (talk) 15:59, 31 October 2008 (UTC)

Rick Astley won the Best Act Ever award[edit]

Can we add Rick's victory at the MTV Europe Award to his article? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.90.55.45 (talk) 21:31, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

Also: He wasn't even invited to perform. http://www.rickastley.co.uk/news/news2008-10-30.html --129.241.150.176 (talk) 21:37, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

Faulty information[edit]

"One of the first occurences was when the trailer for the video game Grand Theft Auto IV generated so much traffic Rockstar Games's website crashed."

Rickrolling existed long before GTAIV as even the Rickrolling page attests. Can someone change this? I can't because of the protected status of the page —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.111.183.138 (talk) 18:15, 11 December 2008 (UTC)

Error[edit]

Newton-le-Willows, Astley's hometown is in Cheshire, not Lancashire or Merseyside as the article indicates.

Many thanks

Dan —Preceding unsigned comment added by Crofty82 (talkcontribs) 09:15, 15 December 2008 (UTC)

Dan, Dan, the opinion man! Newton le Willows is in St.Helens, which is in Merseyside. It's never been in Cheshire in it's life! 92.239.71.235 (talk) 23:47, 13 September 2010 (UTC)

It was in Lancashire when he was born, but has been in Merseyside since 1974. Jim Michael (talk) 17:41, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

Question of validity of RickRolling[edit]

Does anyone think RickRolling was a phenomenon started by people working for him? On youtube, lot's of controversial or interesting videos would be linked to a RickRoll. It was the best prank on the net, however it seems to good to be true for this to not start from a source, it might just be lucky though. But even if it did start from a source from him, many people thought it was funny and would make RickRoll pranks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.201.193.254 (talk) 18:40, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

No, the source of rickrolling came from 4chan, predictably. They started off with Duckroll, the trail is visible.

"FBI" link in infobox[edit]

Hey everyone!!!!1111 Anywai, can somebody please remove the Associated Acts: FBI link in the infobox? (Just the link, not the text) It leads to a disambiguation page, where Rick's band FBI is an entry but does not have a page. I can't seem to remove it, I can change the link, but if I remove the link, the box becomes text. ANYONE? --MasterOfTheXP (talk) 23:42, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

Agree, it shouldn't have a link to the disambiguation page. How about making it a red link - FBI? extraordinary (talk) 13:50, 11 March 2009 (UTC)

GMTV[edit]

He was on it today. Please add to article. Also, he was obviously lip synching when singing Never Gonna Give You Up.--Rocklin Kyley (talk) 09:19, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

Not added yet?--Rocklin Kyley (talk) 12:01, 7 February 2009 (UTC)
I can't edit the article.--Rocklin Kyley (talk) 12:02, 7 February 2009 (UTC)
There's no need to report his every appearance.--Atlan (talk) 10:30, 10 February 2009 (UTC)

Rick Astley reference on "Psych"[edit]

Hi, I just saw an episode of Psych (First aired on 2/13/2009) that had a reference to Rick Astley. During a flashback to 1988 Spencer creates a Rick Astley pinata for a contest at a summer camp. Later in the episode the pinata ends up being dredged up from the bottom of the lake.

I just thought it was a funny culture reference, and maybe we could add it to the article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.98.179.79 (talk) 07:03, 14 February 2009 (UTC)

I'll copy/paste my reply to the previous thread: There's no need to report his every appearance.--Atlan (talk) 23:34, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

Personal life[edit]

Why is there no personal life section on this page? Doesn't Rick have a personal life? I, for one, would like to know about it! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 125.239.59.228 (talk) 07:59, 24 March 2009 (UTC)

Second that. One has to read ALL the text to find he seems to have an interesting wife who is a filmmaker, and at some point it mentions a daughter born in 1992, but that's it. Certainly he is welcome to his privacy, but there are certain things that are a matter of public record (i.e. births, marriages, etc.). It would be great if someone could add this section. --gobears87 (talk) 10:18, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
I have created a new section to do with his personal life. Hope to add more in the next few days APHST (talk) 19:00, 5 September 2010 (UTC)

Any real evidence he exists?[edit]

Are you sure you haven't been rick rolled, Wikipedia? I find no evidence that he exists in any iron clad sources. Not in Britannica, not on Galileo. Zip. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.243.112.246 (talk) 01:56, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

What about the pictures of him? Do you think it's someone else, or that it's a totally a digital fake/forged picture? 66.189.36.188 (talk) 02:53, 19 July 2009 (UTC)

I am more curious about how the dude doesn't seem to have aged a day in twenty years. The only difference at all is the hair. Perhaps he is a time traveler, looking for a wife. To never give up. - NemFX (talk) 08:29, 29 August 2009 (UTC)

XD --MisterWiki talking! :-D - 14:29, 26 November 2009 (UTC)
Excuse me, but what about the thousands/millions who went to his concerts/performances? Ffgamera - My page! · Talk to me!· Contribs 10:22, 2 October 2010 (UTC)

Reports of death[edit]

Rick Astley has been reported dead on june 30 2009

sources http://www.ireport.com/docs/DOC-287996 http://digg.com/people/Rick_Astley_Found_Dead_in_Berlin_Hotel_Room

confrimation please? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Letsmakeithapn323 (talkcontribs) 04:52, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

Also hearing this, can we get a confirmation and add this into his page? 75.182.106.197 (talk) 04:57, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

I don't know why this keeps getting deleted. I heard it on German radio. They confirmed it. 207.154.101.137 (talk) 05:24, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

this is fake - 4chan is behind it. Look at the iReport - it lists the date on the alleged AP Report as "Monday, June 30th". Monday was the 29th. Mega-fail. Take a look through B's archives, they're definitely trying to spread the rumour. Cvanp (talk) 04:59, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

"iReport.com is a user-generated site. That means the stories submitted by users are not edited, fact-checked or screened before they post." I think that's all you need to know. Tnova4 (talk) 05:25, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

But that's not my source. I heard it on the radio. Google it. 207.154.101.137 (talk) 05:26, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
We don't need to be breaking news. We can add it to the article once a reputable source confirms the report...or we can not add it once it's clear that it's /b/ nonsense. --OnoremDil 05:27, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
I'd also take a look at this 4chan thread (NSFW due to ads): http://img.4chan.org/b/res/144221555.html - looks like another meme. ɯɐʇsnɾı (talk) 05:34, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
I also advocate for adding any information about the origin of the hoax and that it is being propagated only when WP:RS discuss the hoax (i.e., if CNN were to actually pick it up). It isn't "notable" yet (but that could change). And by WP:RS I don't mean us talking about it... that doesn't count. ;) --Kinu t/c 06:05, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
Looks like they already deleted the bogus "iReport" (though I wouldn't be surprised if another one popped up). OhNoitsJamie Talk 06:07, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
Another one has appeared: http://ireport.com/docs/DOC-288020Woddfellow2| 06:12, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

Despite it being a hoax, shouldn't we add a sentence or two to the 2000's section saying it's a hoax? A lot of people are going to be coming to this page in the next few hours, and I think if it said it was a hoax that would calm a lot of people. AlexAH (talk) 06:14, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

WP:HOAX addresses that. Douglasr007 (talk) 06:17, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
User:Douglasr007, that article has nothing to say about covering hoaxes within bio-articles, as far as I could tell. I'm not supporting continuing the hoax (although I don't think that's what your saying), but adding in a section mentioning breifly that there was a hoax.AlexAH (talk) 06:21, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
The hoax is not remotely notable now, and probably won't be in the future either. OhNoitsJamie Talk 06:23, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
Wouldn't that count as synthesis considering the 'hoax' so far is nothing more then a few random interweb users and hasn't been reported *anywhere* Q T C 06:24, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
I see your point, and I agree, but it is worth noting that on Twitter, "Rick Astley Found" was the second highest topic for almost an hour. However, I don't know the exact definition of "notable" as it pertains to hoaxes, so I'll leave this alone. AlexAH (talk) 06:29, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
The hoax is not notable and should not be mentioned. – Zntrip 06:31, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
But the fact that it is a hoax is notable, at least temporarily. People coming here and seeing this article locked may lead to flashbacks of the Michael Jackson article that was locked immediately after his death. I believe the hoax should be mentioned to reassure people that he is not dead, and that the article is fake. --Fbifriday (talk) 07:55, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

Death reports - hoax[edit]

As a courtesy to any editors who come to this page in order to update the death reports please note the following:

  • The reports of Astley's death are all hoaxes. This report claims to be a reprint of an Associated Press article, however the reprint is clearly a fake and was NOT released by AP.
  • It is against Wikipedia policy to publicise hoaxes unless the hoax become newsworthy in their own right - meaning that the hoax itself has significant follow-on events and related press coverage. That is not the case with 99% of hoaxes and is definitely not the case with this one.

If you have any questions about this issue please post them below. However be advised that any additions to this article concerning his death will be reverted immediately. Repeated additions could lead to a vandalism warning. Manning (talk) 06:40, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

Picture[edit]

This picture also describes some more of the problems listed about the article above. [2] --75.81.213.51 (talk) 06:44, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

Well what about http://www.lacuarta.cl/contenido/65_47312_9.shtml ? Are you ready for IPv6? (talk) 06:48, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
You found a spanish website that doesn't check their facts before publishing them. Let it go. Manning (talk) 06:54, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2009/6/30/nation/20090630144948&sec=nation

This link is a word for word copy of the hoax AP article. I have emailed the newspaper in question to correct it. Manning (talk) 07:06, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

Malaysia now is fooled. http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2009/6/30/nation/20090630144948&sec=nation Are you ready for IPv6? (talk) 07:07, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

This link is dead. So obviously not fooled for long. --Escape Orbit (Talk) 09:07, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

it should be mentioned on wiki page. it has been talked about by the press: http://www.inquisitr.com/27748/rick-astley-dead/ and perez hilton on twitter. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.86.34.252 (talk) 07:54, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

Inquisitr is little better than a blog. It is not a reliable source. And Perez Hilton? Well... --Escape Orbit (Talk) 09:07, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
Inquisitr says, and I quote, "Rick Astley is dead at the hands of an advanced civilization of alien music lovers". Are you ready for IPv6? (talk) 13:18, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

The Hoax is beginning to gain traction. A quick google news search shows articles from The Sun and The Times. I'd wait for today to pan out to see if any more 'reputable' sources appear. Sun Article 65.189.175.112 (talk) 14:11, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

A mention should be made of The Hoax. Baltimore Sun, Entertainment Weekly, San Francisco Chronicle, The Times, The Sun, Cherry Creek News, Associated Content and many others have written articles on it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.86.34.252 (talk) 16:10, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

Celebrity death hoax RFC[edit]

On the topic of celebrity death hoaxes, I've opened the matter for RFC debate to get things resolved once and for all. See Talk:Celebrity death hoax. Manning (talk) 10:23 am, Today (UTC+10)

He wasn't discovered by Waterman, but by Waterman's girlfriend[edit]

Transcribed from an interview for which I have provided the link:

Interviewer: "You said you worked with Rick. What you did--you spotted him--"
Pete Waterman: "Yeah--well, I didn't spot him, my girlfriend did."
Interviewer: "Oh really!"
Pete Waterman: "Yeah."

From:
"Rick Astley and Pete Waterman on TV-am - 1987"
Timed link - see it right here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eM-PHEpdEak#t=2m00s

So, the part of the sentence beginning the 2nd section should be changed from:
"...when he was noticed by the record producer Pete Waterman, who persuaded him to come to London..."
to:
"...when he was noticed by the girlfriend of record producer Pete Waterman; Waterman persuaded him to come to London..."

68.174.102.95 (talk) 04:05, 8 September 2009 (UTC)

That's untrue, he was discovered and pursuaded by Waterman, as you can see on his official biography. --MisterWiki talking! :-D - 14:23, 26 November 2009 (UTC)
Pete Waterman usually exaggerates when he is interviewed, especially when it comes to his acts. In this case, he was trying to put across to the audience that Rick was a boy next door type of character, and was found by accident. APHST (talk) 22:32, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

Astley is English, not American, therefore the "African American" reference is incorrect[edit]

The comment that "During much of his career, due to his deep bass-baritone voice, many listeners assumed he was African-American." could be very consfusing. Since Astley is not an American, how could he be African-American? The term should be changed to "black." —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.180.197.28 (talk) 15:19, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

Er, I think they thought he was both.--Sooo Kawaii!!! ^__^ (talk) 13:48, 12 November 2009 (UTC)
Hi, about he is English, is truth, BUT people believed he was African-American, despite he was English. --MisterWiki talking! :-D - 14:21, 26 November 2009 (UTC)
it would be far more correct to say that people assumed he was a negro - Charlize Theron is an African American, but that's not the point, I suppose. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.119.123.202 (talk) 03:05, 27 August 2010 (UTC)

His so-called lineage is multiracial and so he is a Mutant-American like Barack Obama. That is why his music sounds like African-American. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 186.109.2.24 (talk) 16:04, 14 February 2012 (UTC)

Lene Bausager background[edit]

Seriously? No one is remotely intrigued by the possibility that Rick met his wife when she was dancing in one of his music videos? Please someone who knows, comment on this. And before whoever deleted this comment deletes it again, think about how awesome Rick and his wife are for doing something like that. It's an important part of his background information which no one has posted.

To begin with a specific question--Lene Bausager bears some resemblance to the bikini-clad woman in the Rick Astley music video, "Whenever You Need Somebody". Is she in fact that very person? 24.90.209.33 (talk) 16:13, 24 April 2010 (UTC)

I thought Rick met his wife during one of his concerts - I read this somewhere but can't remember where APHST (talk) 16:54, 28 April 2010 (UTC)

I think she is, i can't rember when i read that but i think he did meet her within some shobizz thingy —Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.104.103.164 (talk) 22:50, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

Pending changes[edit]

This article is one of a number (about 100) selected for the early stage of the trial of the Wikipedia:Pending Changes system on the English language Wikipedia. All the articles listed at Wikipedia:Pending changes/Queue are being considered for level 1 pending changes protection.

The following request appears on that page:

Comments on the suitability of theis page for "Penfding changes" would be appreciated.

Please update the Queue page as appropriate.

Note that I am not involved in this project any much more than any other editor, just posting these notes since it is quite a big change, potentially

Regards, Rich Farmbrough, 23:44, 16 June 2010 (UTC).

Another error here[edit]

He can't be born in three different places. Please fix it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.239.29.61 (talk) 16:33, 6 January 2011 (UTC)

Rick Astley's Wikipedia Sales Brochure[edit]

this whole Wikipedia entry sounds like like someone's sales - marketing pitch.

"After retiring from the music industry in 1993, Astley made a comeback in 2007 when he became an Internet phenomenon, as his video for "Never Gonna Give You Up" became part of a popular Internet meme known as "Rickrolling".[6] Astley was voted "Best Act Ever" by Internet users at the MTV Europe Music Awards 2008.[7]"69.165.138.51 (talk) 00:51, 17 June 2011 (UTC)

Luddites[edit]

What about his new band, The Luddites? its for real! http://www.rickastley.co.uk/2011/01/rock-astley-and-the-luddites-smash-the-rose/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.4.151.110 (talk) 12:20, 2 March 2012 (UTC)

Error[edit]

"During the late 2000s". Please change this to "During the early 2000s" — Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.221.178.130 (talk) 14:06, 25 August 2012 (UTC)

I expect this refers to the decade of 20-00. Still, this could be better expressed. 188.221.72.112 (talk) 02:44, 20 April 2013 (UTC)

Also "he became the first male solo artist to have his first eight singles all chart in the UK Top 10. This record still stands to this day." - The latter sentence is redundant as a 'first' record can never be broken. The writer probably meant that Rick remains the only artist for this to be true; if so, this would be fine to express. 188.221.72.112 (talk) 02:44, 20 April 2013 (UTC)

Wrong retiring date...[edit]

It says he retired at 1933, yet he was born on 1966? I do not know the actual dates, so I didn't change it, but if someone could, that would be great... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 37.105.62.82 (talk) 11:47, 1 March 2014 (UTC)

Max Bygraves paternity rumours[edit]

In Lancashire there are word-of-mouth rumours that Max Bygraves fathered Astley during a tour.Fletcherbrian (talk) 14:03, 27 September 2014 (UTC)

One of many links here

Comments abound that Astley has a facial resemblance to Bygraves.Fletcherbrian (talk) 14:13, 27 September 2014 (UTC)

Only one commenter suggested Astley looks alike Bygraves, in an unnoteworthy forum. Not passing WP:RS = not gonna be added to the article. --Diego Grez (talk) 01:34, 28 September 2014 (UTC)

OK coolFletcherbrian (talk) 13:42, 28 September 2014 (UTC)