Talk:Rick Stein

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What about Chalkie the dog ?[edit]

This dog used to be very popular, with lots of camera shots, even his own camera crew when he was too old to go with Rick on his trip through France by boat. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.12.93.254 (talk) 10:27, 11 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think that is significant unless you have reliable sources. Thanks. Condo951795 (talk) 06:18, 5 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

One article out of all his TV shows[edit]

That is Rick Stein's Cornwall. Should there not be more?

May try to create.

Condo951795 (talk) 08:20, 7 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Merge from Chalky (dog)[edit]

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This has remained open for long enough, the result of this discussion was merge. Cavalryman (talk) 08:50, 18 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I am not convinced Chalky (dog) meets WP:GNG, but that content can be merged here. Ping editors who commented on this at Chalky (dog)'s (talk, edit history includes a PROD and a bold redirect, etc.). @William Harris, Andrew Davidson, Cavalryman, and Condo951795:. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 03:22, 6 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

  • Celebrity chef Stein's dog dies, BBC, 16 January 2007
→ reliable & independent checkY
→ significant coverage checkY
→ reliable & independent checkY
→ significant coverage ☒N – on an undisclosed date in 2005 the dog was 15 years old
  • Laurie Bogart Morrow (2012), "Chalky", The Giant Book of Dog Names, Gallery, p. 88, ISBN 9781451666908
→ reliable & independent checkY
→ significant coverage Question? – full quote: Chalky Jack Russell Terrier (1989-2007) owned by English chef Rick Stein. Chalky’s Bite and Chalky’s Bark, two beers brewed by Sharps, were named after this dog. So popular was the little dog that his death was announced on the floor of Great Britain’s Parliament.
I think 42 words is a little short of WP:SIGCOV, but there is definitely enough for a mention in Stein's article. Further, whilst previously I was agnostic about where the article was directed, I think this (Stein) article is a better destination than Sharp's Brewery. Cavalryman (talk) 04:10, 6 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose Stein said that "he's more famous than me" and he should know. As the dog was famous and there are plenty of sources, the article works fine as it is, especially as there is no difficulty using a photo there. Merge it here and the content would tend to be diluted and diminished. As the page gets about 50 readers per day, there is clear interest in the dog itself rather than as a detail of Stein's life.
We note for the record that this proposal seems to arise due to conflict with Piotrus on unrelated topics as it's part of a flurry of pings from him. It therefore appears to be retaliation contrary to WP:FOLLOWING. Tsk. Andrew🐉(talk) 08:57, 6 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support not convinced at all by an EDM proposed by a former MP. Merge.Condo951795 (talk) 10:41, 6 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support as per Nigel (dog), a very similar situation. Martinevans123 (talk) 10:59, 6 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment. Andrew added the Early Day Motion after I prompted him. As per this link, "EDMs very few are debated...In an average session only six or seven EDMs reach over two hundred signatures." The EDM regarding Chalky received three other Signatories, excluding Peeling himself. Is that a significant source? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Condo951795 (talk • contribs) 11:42, 6 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support. We do not keep articles on Wikipedia based on the number of reads per day, we base in on WP:NOTABILITY and citing WP:RELIABLE sources, and not on what Rick Stein believes. Someone here needs to focus on the topic and not the person; we all grow tired of the bizarre and unfounded attributions as to people's motives, refer WP:AOBF. William Harris (talk) 11:49, 6 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support merge No independent notability, everything is in relation to Rick Stein. The Banner talk 13:31, 6 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support merge Everything about the dog exists in relation to his owner, and can be adequately covered at said owner's page. And offhand remark about the dog being more famous is not a definitive fact. --SilverTiger12 (talk) 23:06, 9 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support merge. WP:GNG —> "Independent of the subject" Chalky became and stayed famous because of his appearances with Rick Stein on his cooking show, etc. Like SilverTiger12 said, a comment — made tongue-in-cheek — isn't fodder for notability.  — Myk Streja (beep) 14:56, 23 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Missing book?[edit]

Why is Mr Stein’s book ‘From Venice to Istanbul’ not mentioned under publications? Porthillbilly (talk) 07:04, 15 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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