Talk:Robert Cormier

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Former good article nominee Robert Cormier was a good articles nominee, but did not meet the good article criteria at the time. There are suggestions below for improving the article. Once these issues have been addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake.
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"This article has comments here"[edit]

Here is the entire content of the linked comments page, which can now be deleted. -P64

all in all good... but it mentions nothing about multiple books of his being banned....
—(from edit history) 02:57, 6 September 2007‎ 69.2.7.125

GA on hold[edit]

This article is well-referenced. I've fixed a few formatting issues (there shouldn't be a space between the period and the ref, just a little thing). The first thing I'm thinking, though, is that the article doesn't cover the breadth requirement for GA yet. Such a controversial author surely has more out there about him than six references can cover. Also, some parts of the article need copy-editing. Maybe get someone not familiar with the subject to look it over and make it a little less choppy and repetitive. The lead is also a bit short. I think it ought to mention some of his awards and a little more about his life. I also expect it will get bigger as the main body of the article does. I'm putting th GA on hold for at least 7 days, so if it's fixed by then, I'll pass it. Wrad (talk) 01:35, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

"Such a controversial author surely has more out there about him than six references can cover."

I would think so too, bu tI could not find any Reliable Sources about the subject other than those. I'm also not a great Google Searcher, I'll see if I can get some other people to help me. Soxred93 | talk count bot 22:02, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
Try whatever library -- academic or public -- that you have a card for; you can likely search indexes like EBSCO or Gale on line. Toronto Public gives me the Canadian Periodical Index, which is basically Gale. Searching on "Cormier, Robert" as a subject gets me 54 full-text articles. Some are irrelevant hits, and others are reviews, but there's also, e.g., "Teen Wars : The young adult fiction of Robert Cormier" in World and I (Dec 2001) clocking in at 3174 words.
Your article is a good start on Cormier. There's some rewording that I think would improve what's there now. If I have a chance, I'll make some changes. Epanalepsis (talk) 03:56, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
I'm failing this as GA. I just can't see how it could possibly satisfy the breadth requirement with no print sources. Wrad (talk) 18:12, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

Assessment four years later[edit]

After making some improvements (previous version) I downgrade it from B to C, Children's lit (and I suppose the B grades predate class C). Some problems:

  • After reading this article (and I am the cheese) I must guess some replacement for {infobox} genre "Suspense, Young Adult", which is outlandish but had not been displayed because of syntax error --(about genre see the new Talk section)
  • The image lacks a caption
  • (Quoting the lead) "His most popular works ... all of which have won awards." --but the awards are nowhere identified
  • (Quoting the Life) "... went on to become an award-winning journalist" but no award is identified. --and he is a columnist in the lead but there is no mention of his column (human interest? business? etc)
  • The major Margaret A. Edwards Award is explained generally without any specific citation of Cormier, not even the recognized body of work Yes check.svg Done
  • Refs to the given online sources are incomplete (as were the three Ext links that I have completed)

--P64 (talk) 02:00, 15 December 2012 (UTC)

Before leaving I covered the 1997 Phoenix Award adequately, and the 1991 Edwards Award with official citation and references --which is adequate content but slapped into two locations.
  • P.S. This "biography" says almost nothing about his life while he was a writer (spouse and children merely named in {{infobox writer}} fields), nor whether he ever retired, and nothing about his death (merely infobox fields).
--P64 (talk) 02:43, 15 December 2012 (UTC)

Genre(s)[edit]

I don't know Cormier and arrived only after covering the Phoenix Award at I am the cheese. Among other changes, I replaced {{infobox writer}} genre="Suspense, Young Adult" --which is appropriate for no one, but was invisible due to a syntax error-- thus:

Genre(s): Realist young adult (YA) novels, crime fiction, thriller

Because those are guesses I didn't add any genre portal to See also or genre category to the footer --such as Portal: Crime or Category:Crime fiction writers, or anything similar for mystery fiction, etc.

--P64 (talk) 02:00, 15 December 2012 (UTC)