Talk:Roman Catholic Diocese of Novaliches

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I accept suggestions in this entry page. Please delete the notices or warnings on top of the page. Thank you.1205dz (talk) 19:44, 6 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The idea of Wikipedia is that it is a collaborative effort that builds an encyclopedia organically through WP:Consensus. In this way it is like the magisterium of the Catholic Church. The best articles, like the teachings of the church, come about through a collaborating to seek consensus within a atmosphere of respect and debate. No individual bishop or subset of bishops can determine the teachings of the church. Similarly Wikipedia is also a collective effort by all. No one is the moderator, the owner, the authority who accepts or rejects suggestions or decides what is or is not in an article. Rather editors should WP:Be bold, make their changes, and then others can agree by leaving it alone, disagree by reverting it (being careful of thewp:three revert rule), or the best and usual outcome, take the changes and adjust them to make them better.
While there are no owners, there can be stewards, just like in the magisterium where the bishops are the stewards. Wikipedia:STEWARDSHIP says, "Stewardship of an article (or group of related articles) may be the result of a sincere personal interest in the subject matter or an interest in a cause or organization related to the article's subject matter. The editor might also be an expert on the subject matter, or otherwise very knowledgeable of the topic, and able to provide credible insights for locating reliable sources. If any of this is the case, the editor(s) in question is/are no less responsible for adhering to core policies like WP:Neutral point of view, citing reliable sources, or civility." People who assume stewardship of a page must be extra careful not to become owners and to see consensus. --Iloilo Wanderer (talk) 04:45, 7 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

References[edit]

References ideally should be WP:THIRDPARTY and not related to topic of the article. However, some information from the official Diocese of Novaliches would be acceptable in this article since there is some very basic information like names of parishes and bishops. User talk:1205dz you said in one of the edit summary "The whole information is verified with the website of the Diocese of Novaliches" but I do not see that reflected in the footnotes at the bottom of the page. Most of the article lacks citations, lacks footnotes. I think that is the reason for the hatnote saying "This article needs additional citations for verification." I don't think that issue has been resolved. --Iloilo Wanderer (talk) 05:09, 7 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I found the pages on inline citations, i.e. footnotes: Wikipedia:Inline citation and Help:Footnotes.--Iloilo Wanderer (talk) 06:21, 7 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Issues[edit]

References mentioned above as sources are verified by using the text-source integrity of inline citations. This requirement, as opposed to just: 1)- General references, 2)- Links in an "External links" section used as sources, 3)- Links used in a "See also" section, or 4)- Any other form of sourcing not attributed to a specific source, identified by page numbers when more than one page is involved, and other identifiers, means that things like original research or synthesis cannot be checked. Other concerns on an article written in a positive light can include bias, with an inability to check neutrality, and other factors.
An issue with this article is that several WP:policies and guidelines are circumvented by the present condition (that also includes parts of the Five pillars but a main issue, that appears to be overlooked, is the fact that this article (and some others I have observed) use the names of living people. This adds another level to the Wikipedia sourcing criteria that cannot be circumvented by "ignoring the rules" even if sanctioned by the Pope. The History section has all or part of 10 paragraphs that are not referenced, and the Parishes section does not have any. Of the 6 references used 4 of them (almost 67%) are used on one sentence in the "History" section. There are many names of living individuals listed. It is far easier to create an article without sources, or a severe lack of them, than the time required to properly source an article.
These issues need to be resolved or the sections reduced to what can be covered by available sourcing regardless of how nice the embedded lists may look. A suggestion when performing a Google search, that after the initial search, is click on the "News" section under the search bar and search again. Otr500 (talk) 16:13, 15 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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