Talk:Roman Senate

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Untitled[edit]

There are some redundancies throughout this entry. I might do some clean-up. Thoughts? 70.62.254.122 (talk) 09:34, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

Kingdom Senate[edit]

While it's important to include a section on the original Senate, it should be brief and only reflect what (little) is known. Unfortunately the author here has misunderstood the role of the early Senate which was simply the king's advisory council, and confused its powers and rights with those of the patrician clan chiefs. When a king died the right to take the auspices (ius auspicii) reverted to (and ONLY to) the patrician clan heads who met in conclave to choose the series of interreges who presided over the state (for five days each) until a new king was elected.
Also the Senate and senators were named nor from old age (senex, senectus) but from something slightly different: seniority or full adulthood, which began at 37 and the title of which was senior(es), as opposed to the younger men (under 37) who were called iunior(es). It would be a good idea not to make a major statement about these matters without being able to cite a source for it. .Appietas (talk) 00:59, 3 December 2008 (UTC)


Creation of the Senate[edit]

I added Livy's account of the creation of the Senate to the "Senate of the Roman Kingdom" section.

Livy's account is in direct conflict with the un-referenced comment at the top "...being founded before the first king of Rome ascended the throne (traditionally dated to 753 BC)."

Categorized as 'legislature'[edit]

This is something I'm just starting to disentangle for myself, but it's my understanding that technically the Roman senate was neither legislative nor parliamentarian; only the People could pass a law. The senate article is placed in the "Historical legislatures" category, however. Cynwolfe (talk) 13:20, 19 September 2009 (UTC)

Ref for little more than an advisory council to the king[edit]

I suggest that a reference for:

During the days of the kingdom, it was little more than an advisory council to the king[citation needed]

Could be:

Cornell, Tim. 1995. The beginnings of Rome: Italy and Rome from the Bronze Age to the Punic Wars (c. 1000-264 BC). Routledge history of the ancient world. London: Routledge. pp. 248-250

Ronbarak (talk) 17:41, 18 December 2010 (UTC)

Apologies for editing another's comment, but thought it would be better not to make this a footnote here. (Yes, a good likely source.) Cynwolfe (talk) 23:35, 3 January 2011 (UTC)