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How about you retards working for Wikipedia fix this guy's record? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.176.6.178 (talk) 07:05, 19 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I believe I have fixed the record. You may consider doing so yourself in the future: Help:Getting started. Jujutacular (talk) 16:14, 14 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Questioning the viability of this BLP[edit]

I would like to draw attention to this BLP for multiple issues. First it is a total of 3 sentences that rather poorly put forth the BLP claim for notability. Second, there are several sentences that really should be cited and backed up by an extrenal reference rather than the sensational synthesis of data here. Third, per Wikipedia:NOT#STATS, we really shouldn't be the destination for the extensive fight records for MMA fighters (we can be a conduit to the more extensive records). The frequent bouncing around from one promotion to annother is not really indicative of more than "We need someone to take a fight against the champ, who can we hire for cheap". I'd like to hear what other editors think/can do prior to taking a hostile or drastic action.

At this time I am not making any deletion suggestions. I am simply trying to draw attention to this BLP and have some discussion about it. Hasteur (talk) 19:39, 19 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I was initially on the fence on this one. However, looking over this record, while he was definitely what you describe later in his career, earlier on he had victories over notable fighters such as Pete Spratt and Shonie Carter back when they were in their primes, and also has a win over UFC Lightweight Title challenger Joe Stevenson early in Stevenson's career. He also absolutely meets notability standards unless they were changed last time I checked. From a non-Wikipedian perspective, his problem is his heyday was back before MMA exploded in 2005, which is why he might be considered obscure now, but many of his contemporaries that he fought are not. The fact that he more than arguably stuck around too long, and the fact that his prime was before the sport was terribly popular (at least outside Japan and Korea), I don't think should be held against him. He had a significant enough career and meets notability standards. If you think the standards themselves should be altered, I'm sure there may be some people who might agree (for most of Strikeforce's existence fighting in a prelim fight wasn't nearly the same as fighting on a main card, for instance), but this is not the page for something like that. As for the fight record, that is absolutely part of his notability and the sort of thing you see on any athlete's page if the page is well done. I really don't see how any of the examples at Wikipedia:NOT#STATS remotely apply, and in fact the use of tables for organizational purposes is explicitly recommended (albeit for statistics but still). Suggesting that a lengthy fighter summary is "excessive" is an extreme stretch, and the removal of lengthy statistical tables for athletes, even marginal ones, is something better asked on whatever the Wikipedia Sports Notability page is. Beansy (talk) 07:33, 10 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]