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- 1 I'll Strum, You'll Sing
- 2 Marriages and children?
- 3 Requested move
- 4 Enough guitars!
- 5 The Thirst
- 6 changing one "citation needed" moment
- 7 about that Zentgraf website reference ...
- 8 some link removal
- 9 the "recently" section
- 10 Not enough guitars!
- 11 bbc1 "newsbeat" quote
- 12 Ronnie leaves wife for an 18-year-old
- 13 Needs a good copy-edit
- 14 collaboration on Ronnie's 2007 autobiography
- 15 Lead needs changing
- 16 Sad n Ruin
- 17 Birds/Thunderbirds & Schools
- 18 Notable instruments
I'll Strum, You'll Sing
Are there really any plans for the album "I'll Strut, You'll Sing" to be made with Rod Stewart? I've been hearing about this for years with no apparent progress.
Don't think it is gonna happen since he has been in rehab or touring with the Stones. Not much time to spare inbetween. Kaiketsu 15:02, 20 June 2007 (UTC)
- seven months later ... (sorry for the bold print, but i'm aiming to be visible here!)
- i've just changed the prospective title of this still-awaited album in the article - as far as i know the proposed title is the same as the track on Crossexion, which is of course "You Strum and I'll Sing", with no strutting involved. :] if that's incorrect, i apologize, but ... do we have a citable source for whatever the proposed title was/is? thanks Sssoul (talk) 18:08, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
Marriages and children?
There is much info about marriages and children of the other 3 members of the Stones, but nothing about Ron. Can someone fill in the blanks? --rogerd 21:04, 27 May 2006 (UTC)
My perception is that he is called Ronnie in Britain and by the press, but generally is known as Ron outside Britain. Kaiketsu 23:37, 30 May 2007 (UTC)
- and my perception is that at least in the last decade or so he consistently prefers "Ronnie". i agree with the idea of changing the main title of the article to Ronnie Wood. Sssoul (talk) 13:45, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
We don't have to mention every guitar he has been playing throughout his career in the infobox. It's better to create a section instead. One section for his instruments (and instrument setup) and one section for his style of playing. Kaiketsu 15:02, 20 June 2007 (UTC)
Take a look at this, too.. : Ron showing a small collection of guitars just for touring!--leahtwosaints (talk) 01:31, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
- They aren't. It's just nn trivia and someone trying to get free advertising from an association. It has no place in this article. 18.104.22.168 (talk) 13:26, 9 February 2008 (UTC)
changing one "citation needed" moment
after pondering it a while, i decided to remove the tagged statement about Ronnie being a significant contributor to the Stones - i don't know why it was tagged, but the impression it made on me was "has someone said otherwise?!" sometimes stating something sort of suggests the opposite, you know? and after all the entire article reflects what a major Stone he is. at first i thought of replacing it with the statement that he was made a fully-fledged financial partner in 1990, but that wouldn't fit the "1970s" heading, so i duly moved that to the "recently" section. i hope that's some help. if i find anything more references i can add i will. Sssoul (talk) 15:44, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
about that Zentgraf website reference ...
http://www.nzentgraf.de/books/tcw/works1.htm is one of the best-researched reference sites about the Stones so i sure hope everyone agrees it's worth citing. the tricky part is that to locate the information about Ronnie's pre-Stones career, you have to go into "site map" then choose "Wood buttons" for each year - i can't figure out a way to make the references refer directly to the "site map" or the "Ronnie 1957-75" index. if someone else can figure out how to do that it would be very worthwhile - thanks! Sssoul (talk) 17:15, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
after consulting with some wiki-admin people i decided to delete some links: one was freezing up firefox, which is just a drag; three were for art galleries that seemed too much like adverts (especially since i added a link to Ronnie's own gallery [Scream], where his artwork can be admired); two (or three? i forget, sorry!) were for music sites that are awfully pop-up laden, and i think Ronnie's official site does a much more elegant job of providing information about his career, recordings, etc. i hope that makes sense to people. Sssoul (talk) 19:54, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
the "recently" section
this part doesn't read very well - it's too choppy; and considering that it falls under the "career" heading, the parts about Ronnie's struggle with alcoholism and his Top Gear lap time don't really fit, do they. i propose splitting it into two sections for the 1990s and the 2000s and then rearranging/adding to it to make it flow more smoothly as a piece of writing. i can try to see what i can come up with, but if anyone else has any feelings about it, it would be cool to hear from you ... thanks ... Sssoul (talk) 23:25, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
- update: okay, i've followed a few of my own suggestions above, and i think it's an improvement. some points that need more help:
- ~ the 1980s and 1990s need filling out.
- ~ should Shine a Light (the film) be mentioned, either in the 2000s or under Books, Films & TV Appearances? on the one hand it's "just another Stones concert film"; on the other hand it seems to be considered "important" as a film ...
- ~ with all due respect i don't know if 3 tracks on a Beverly Knight album is worth leaving in - after all we've skipped his whole tour with Bo Diddley, as well as miles of guest appearances both on stage and on records.
- ~ similarly: with all due respect, is Clapton's 1973 Rainbow Concert really worth mentioning? i'm removing the bit about Clapton's heroin addiction - that belongs in the Clapton article.
- Sssoul (talk) 13:54, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
Here is a reference for the Ronnie Wood joining PJ on stage, I don't know how to add citations and don't feel like spending ten minutes figuring it out: http://www.xfm.co.uk/news/2009/pearl-jam-we-werent-happy-with-ten 22.214.171.124 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 20:21, 30 September 2009 (UTC).
Not enough guitars!
if the "notable instruments" section of the infobox is to be restricted to just a couple of particular models, i think the Duesenberg should be eliminated - it's flashy, but he never used it *that* much, and recently it's been "deposed" by other "boutique guitars" like the Versouls and the new Zemaitis models - on the Bigger Bang tour i think he used the Duesenberg about twice in three years. i guess "various boutique guitars" isn't a very informative thing to list, even though Ronnie *is* pretty notable for supporting small companies this way ...
at the same time, is it worth being more specific in the info-box? for example: Zemaitis disc-front and metal-front models - which are certainly the ones he's used the longest and is most strongly "associated with"? and/or the fact that the ESPs he actually uses are equipped with b-benders (which i believe isn't standard-issue for the RW Signature models)?
meanwhile: it would be 100% great to have a section in the article devoted to his guitars. i know some about them, and am willing to work on it, but i don't have access to many citeable references and don't want to put stuff up that's just going to attract a lot of "citation needed" labels. is anyone around who could help out with sources, please and thank you?
and: the youtube link that Leahtwosaints posted in the "enough guitars" section above, with a "guided tour" to Ronnie's Licks Tour guitars, is on Ronnie's official myspace page, which is run by Ronnie's management (yes, i doublechecked and it really is): http://www.myspace.com/ronniewoodofficial it's the last clip under "my interests" on the left ... the clip was produced by rollingstones.com, and i take its presence on Ronnie's myspace page as an indication that they condone its presence on youtube. the clip is interesting, relevant, etc, so is it all right to put it among the "external links"? Sssoul (talk) 10:53, 26 February 2008 (UTC)
bbc1 "newsbeat" quote
just for the record: the "Ronnie Wood facts" box here has clearly consulted wikipedia: http://news.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/hi/music/newsid_7313000/7313426.stm glad someone's paying attention - other versions of the story called Ronnie a "legendary bassist" 8) Sssoul (talk) 08:41, 30 March 2008 (UTC)
Ronnie leaves wife for an 18-year-old
See http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,380961,00.html. Verklempt (talk) 04:04, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
- yes, there are different versions of the story making the rounds. most of them seem to say he hasn't "left his wife", but that he's been on a drinking binge with this teenager.
- here's the Sun article which i believe "broke" the story: http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/showbiz/bizarre/article1408174.ece
- here's one from the Daily Mail: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1034293/Rolling-Stone-Ronnie-Wood-61-runs-away-18-year-old-Russian-cocktail-waitress.html
- and a "follow-up" from the Sun: http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/showbiz/bizarre/article1414252.ece
- they're not the most coherent articles i've ever read, and a bit too full of "is said to be" and unnamed sources to seem real reliable to me, but ... well, there it is. maybe the actual facts will emerge soon. meanwhile all the best to all the Woods - whatever is going on it's surely not an easy time. Sssoul (talk) 13:09, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
- one more from the Sun, which includes a statement that the girl is 20, not 18: http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/showbiz/bizarre/article1417707.ece Sssoul (talk) 10:50, 14 July 2008 (UTC)
Needs a good copy-edit
collaboration on Ronnie's 2007 autobiography
changing this article to assert that Robinson was the ghostwriter, not a collaborator, without reliable sources to support that statement is against Wikipedia policies - see WP:V and WP:BLP. thanks Sssoul (talk) 15:37, 23 February 2010 (UTC)
Lead needs changing
I was quite surprised when I saw the lead here.. mentioning first and foremost that Wood is well-known for his "characteristic" slide guitar playing. That's not what I think of when I consider Wood's body of work throughout his career. While it's true he plays slide and steel guitars- I think that's best handled in the text and not the lead! Please revisit WP:MOS. --Leahtwosaints (talk) 19:45, 27 December 2010 (UTC)
Sad n Ruin
This section reads too much like fandom and is in shorthand ... lots of grammar and spelling issues. I would try to tidy it up however I don't know the subject well enough to edit. Can someone with better knowledge than me try? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Matrixmania (talk • contribs) 08:13, 30 December 2010 (UTC)
Birds/Thunderbirds & Schools
When he joined the Birds they were known as the Thunderbirds, becoming the Birds to fall in with what most local fans called them.
I believe St Stephens was an Infant school and St Matthews a Primary school. I'm pretty sure Wood attended Evelyns Secondary school which served Yiewsley. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 126.96.36.199 (talk) 19:44, 31 December 2011 (UTC)