Talk:Rover Company

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Move two first lines into new article Belgian man 13:33, 1 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Any additional info on the source or origin of that "OVER" logo at the bottom of the article? Otherwise, it makes it seem like a biased article. --Logariasmo 03:22, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)

File:Rover end.gif

The logo representing a drakkar, (a Viking longship) is more stylized in 2004.

Here is the logo, in case we want to keep it for posterity. I have removed it from the article. If someone wants to re-insert the logo, please give a good reason for doing so, such as maybe: "This modified company logo appeared in ... after ..."

--Logariasmo 03:43, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)

the 'over' badge was posted on www.b3ta.com, a graphics-editing site [British] after the first news. No link, but that's what it is - a joke, and not a serious badge.

Can somebody date the last use of the licenced 215 at Rover? (I believe it was replaced by a BMW around 1990.) Am I right it was bought from GM 1962? And is it still in use at Morgan? Trekphiler 07:31, 28 November 2005 (UTC)

Formerly listed on the London Stock Exchange?

Was "Rover" actally ever listed? I take it that if it was it was previous to the firm becoming part of British Leyland? Otherwise it would be a group listing and so shouldnt be on this page. Ian3055 15:45, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

clarification needed

quote:(Similarly, in Australia, the Honda Quint and Integra were badged as the Rover Quintet and 416i.) what is a honda quint? Im from Australia and never heard of it, I was pretty sure the honda named accord and the rover quintet were the same but need to check this out. (to confirm the honda quint never exsisted in australia its not listed at http://www.redbook.com.au either)

Freewheel

Worth mentioning? Prewar models had a freewheel device operated by a knob on the dash board. 81.156.82.34 10:35, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

Gas Turbines

Rover continued to develop the gas turbine for automotives purposes until the seventies. One of its uses was in the ground starting trolley for Avro Vulcan MkII air craft. Another was to power the APT-E 81.156.82.34 10:44, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

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rover

there is nothing wrong with this document. it is great.

Timeline

I think that the timeline at the bottom of the page should be modified somewhat. The Rover 400 & 45 should be moved to "Mid-size car" and the 75 should be moved in-between "Large Family" and "Executive car" or at least down to "Exectutive car".

Can this even be done? Dominar_Rygel_XVI (talk) 10:53, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

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Parent Company

Ford had acquired an option of first refusal to buy the Rover brand as a result of its purchase of Land Rover from BMW in 2000.

In March 2008, Tata finalised a deal with Ford Motor Company to acquire their British Jaguar Land Rover (JLR) business, which also includes the Rover, Daimler and Lanchester brand names. The purchase was completed on 2nd June 2008

If that's the case, it makes Tata the parent company of the now defunct Rover. It is true Tata owns the brand name and hence the rights to the company.

Hence making Tata the parent company.

--User:prasanaik 19:58, 29th July 2008 (UTC)

This article is about the company named Rover Company Limited which was founded in 1904, and which was acquired by Leyland Motor Corporation (its first parent) in 1967, and absorbed along with them into British Leyland in 1968. Rover Company retained its separate identity within British Leyland (its second parent) through its transition to BL plc, but when BL changed its name to Rover Group in 1986, the old Rover Company became defunct, ceasing to be a separate legal entity, and so is defined in this article as a company which became defunct in 1986. The Rover brand however, as opposed to the by now defunct Rover Company, was used as the main car brand of Rover Group, and continued to be used by them after they were privatised in 1988 (by being sold to British Aerospace), and after they were sold again in 1994 to BMW. In 2000 BMW retained ownership of the brand, although they sold much of the Rover Group company to Phoenix Venture Holdings. Phoenix, however, used the Rover brand, under licence from BMW, for some of the cars they produced until their demise in 2005. SAIC bought the rights to build the "Rover" cars in 2005, but did not get the right to use the brand, which BMW subsequently sold to the Ford Motor Company to go with the Land Rover brand (and company) which they already owned. When Tata Motors bought Jaguar Land Rover from Ford in 2008, they also bought the Rover brand, but as you can see, by then, it was a long way removed from the Rover Company (the subject of this article) which had ceased to exist in 1986. Tata certainly own the brand, but they are no more parents of the Rover Company which went defunct in 1986 than they are of the numerous other companies which have owned or used the brand since then. -- de Facto (talk). 22:56, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

In the absence of any further comment, I'll assume that the 'dispute' is resolved and remove the template. -- de Facto (talk). 13:55, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

Rover Company

The article is about Rover Company, now it has marques etc in infobox, should the page renamed? --— Typ932^{T | C}  21:00, 4 November 2008 (UTC)

Better not, as various pages, such as Rover (cars), Rover brand), Rover Company wikilink to this page. Due to the complexity of industrial history of this company, and the fact that also Rover Company Ltd. ceased to exist in 1986 but continued to be around as a Rover Company as part of Rover Group and later MG Rover, the umbrella term of Rover Company with details about marque, cars and corporate history while making clear in the text how that meaning of "company" changed over time, would be the best way to go. Leave it. Furthermore, the disambiguation page for Rover is already very long, and a further splitting of Rover Co., Rover Cars, Rover marque as additional entries to the already disparate BLMC, BL, Austin Rover, RG, MGR etc would make a reader not familiar with the history of "Rover" essentially unable to grasp the entire context.

The best way to go ahead is to have this as a hub focused on the Rover Company synonymous with its marque until 1986, and then describe the continuation of Rover Company assets within Rover Group and finally MG Rover, and now, as a final point, a dormant marque of Tata. This would be similar to the procedures used on Wikipedia for Jaguar, Bentley, Rolls-Royce, MG and Land Rover which have seen similar disruptions in continuity, though not on the scale and complexity as Rover did.

Rover's history must probably be one of the most complex in automotive history. Let's make this a reflected in an intelligible wiki article. -SocialScienceLondon —Preceding unsigned comment added by SocialScienceLondon (talk • contribs) 01:43, 5 November 2008 (UTC)

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Merge Rover (motorcycles) into this article

Rover Company started out making the Rover Safety Bicycle and then moved on into motorcycles and cars. The Rover in the article Rover (motorcycles) is the same Rover as the one in this article. There should not be a separate article about the same company. I propose that the motorcycle article be merged into this one. No signature (talk) 19:52, 16 May 2009 (UTC)

I have moved the information from "Rover (motorcycles)" into a section of this article. I have kept "Rover (motorcycles)" as a separate article so that any significant additions to the topic can be added there for development as a branch article. If needs be, the section in this article may be summarized more concisely than it is now. No signature (talk) 10:05, 24 May 2009 (UTC)

Leyland Cars

In the post-war era of mergers (i.e. not the pre-war Leyland cars), was it ever true to say that Rover was ever part of "Leyland Cars" (rather than "British Leyland" or "BLMC")? Is this diff correct?

Rover was initially purchased by Leyland, which owned Triumph at the time. Leyland then merged with British Motor Holdings (itself a merger between British Motor Cars and Jaguar Cars) to form British Leyland.

Interstingly enough, the only BMC marque to make it to the end was MG. Wolseley and Riley were killed off early and then Morris and Austin were killed off in the '80s. Triumph was also discontinued in the '80s; BMW still owns the Triumph automotive marque. Jaguar somehow gained its freedom from BL for a few years before being bought by Ford. No signature (talk) 21:21, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

In the 1970s British Leyland made not only cars, but trucks, vans, tractors, fork-lifts, buses, earth moving and road-making equipment, fridges, etc. Leyland Cars was the car making division. -- de Facto (talk). 23:01, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

Rover sponsored a short film The Burning of the Boyd

We would like to purchase this film can you help with an outlet selling this. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.168.93.40 (talk) 08:55, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

Missing information

There were two vehicles, one not metioned and one very little information about that was a turning point for Rover. First being the introduction of the Range Rover in 1969 which was a drastic change in design for Land Rover at the time. Second was little mention about the SD1 or 3500 and how it boosted sales and changed the image of Rover cars and was the last British designed and British built Rover.There is also no mention of Spencer King who played a huge role in Rover's long history —Preceding unsigned comment added by YankeeRover (talk • contribs) 05:00, 7 August 2010 (UTC)

late 1920s reorganization

The Wilks brothers deserve all the credit they have always received but they were found for the job by a relative, Frank Searle, who was very much more than the manager of a bus company (as suggested elsewhere).

There is mention of Weymann being a coach-builder for Rover. Certainly not so but as Rover were Weymann champions, early-adopters and (very) late droppers, it might be that the subsidiary, Midland Light Car Bodies, was a licensee of Weymann. Eddaido (talk) 21:08, 24 April 2011 (UTC)