Talk:Royal Military College, Duntroon

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FAK's': Name given to Staff Cadets who were once Officer Cadets, stands for "Fucking ADFA Cadets"[edit]

What is the above supposed to mean? I have asked a Duntroon Sword of Honour winner and he reckons its nonsense.

--I've both attended and instructed there, and FAK is used. I don't recall it being used when I was a cadet, but when I returned as an instructor it was in common use. Don't think it is relevant to the main page though.

Also, what is the staff cadet and officer cadet difference? I've met Casey et al at Duntroon but never this stuff. Do people with no adf connection write this stuff up?

- A cadet at RMC is known as a Staff Cadet. Cadets at ADFA are known as Officer Cadets. The abbrivations are SCDT and OFFCDT respectively.

- As a recent attendee, I can confirm that the term 'FAC' is used at the College, but not with much regularity. The difference between Staff Cadet and Officer Cadet is one of semantics. Technically all 'Staff Cadets' are 'Officer Cadets' as it is the latter which is an official rank, whilst 'Staff Cadet' is, for want of a better term, an honorific (if that is indeed possible) which is only used whilst at the College.AustralianRupert (talk) 11:26, 20 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Rank of Brigadier General[edit]

Please note that the rank of Brigadier General for the first commandant (Bridges) is correct. Whilst there currently is no such rank in the Ausrtalian Army, at the time this rank did exist. It was changed, along with the UK, to simply brigadier in 1922. As such, I have recorded Bridges rank as it was, not as it would now be as that would not be accurate in my opinion. If anybody disagrees, I am happy to discuss this matter.AustralianRupert (talk) 00:40, 28 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Omission[edit]

Shouldn't there be a section or paragraph about the entrenched hazing that occurs at institutions like this? - Shiftchange (talk) 08:03, 14 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

 Done - Shiftchange (talk) 08:03, 14 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
More could be added on this - Chris Coulthard-Clark's book (from memory) discusses very serious problems with bastardisation during Duntroon's first decades. I think that Andrew Wilke first admitted being part of the problem during his time at Duntroon much earlier than 2011. Nick-D (talk) 11:59, 30 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Some minor notes[edit]

In no particular order:

  • The motto and origins seem a bit odd in the lead - as they don't obviously fit anywhere else in the text, perhaps move this to a footnote hanging off the motto in the infobox?
  • I've redlinked a couple of names of people who probably will get articles, and it might be worth skimming the rest of the list of commandants.
  • The Who's Who entry for I.R Campbell notes that he was awarded the Sword of Honour at Duntroon. Is this a recurring award, and is it worth mentioning alongside the Queen's Medal?

- Shimgray | talk | 22:40, 30 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, Shimgray. Thanks for the review; these are all good points. Cheers. Re the Sword of Honour, yes this is a recurring award (it is bestowed at the end of every session to a member of the graduating class). Traditionally it has gone to the BSM, but not always. I've been trying to find some way to include mention of it in the article, but so far haven't found any reliable sources that discuss it. I've recently acquired another source (Hart), though, so will have a look through that. Regards, AustralianRupert (talk) 00:05, 1 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Gun gates[edit]

The gun gates were called that back in the mid-80's when Hockney and Blake were Commandants. It wasn't commissioned in the 90's. It had been called that for years. Peacemaker67 (send... over) 13:31, 19 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

G'day, thanks for the feedback. I've tweaked the image caption slightly. Does this help? Cheers, AustralianRupert (talk) 20:57, 19 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Looks fine now. Regards, Peacemaker67 (send... over) 00:58, 20 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Colloquial reference to ADFA cadets[edit]

I see that former ADFA cadets were being referred to as "FACs". We called them "Bravo-Foxtrots" (Bed-Fillers) when I was there (as a "Baker" in 86-87), because they spent so much time in bed during their three years over the hill. But is any of this reliably sourced? Cheers, Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 07:16, 12 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

G'day, I'd support removal as it doesn't seem encyclopedic to me. Regards, AustralianRupert (talk) 07:29, 12 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

hi 81.44.58.2 (talk) 13:38, 26 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Reserve Units of Royal Military College - Australia Section should be moved[edit]

Not sure why this section exists here. There should be a separate RMC-A page that details the RMC-A and can also have this section. As RMC-D is a unit within RMC-A.

Just to clarify RMC, Duntroon is NOT RMC - Australia. Rather RMC-A is the parent unit of RMC-D and all the Reserve undergraduate/university regiments.

Doesn't make sense here. Will need to discuss the move, or move it later, as there isn't currently a page for RMC-A KarmaKangaroo (talk) 17:48, 9 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

A line that RMC-D provided reserve training to officers of the University Regiments between the years 1998 and 2008, as that's what's relevant. The section also seems to use the name "College" interchangably referring to both RMC-A and RMC-D KarmaKangaroo (talk) 17:57, 9 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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