Talk:Rules of the Eurovision Song Contest

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Number of songs in final[edit]

This article states a maximum of 25 songs in the final contest, but tallies this up thus: The "big five" countries (=5) The previous year's winnder (=1) 10 qualifiers from 1 semi final (=10) 10 qualifiers from a second semi final (=10)

A total of 26. Could someone clarify/clear this up? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.175.155.101 (talk) 11:09, 14 May 2011 (UTC)

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This article needs to be completely re-written. Following my successful re-write of the main Eurovision article, these sub-articles need the same treatment. Does anyone else want to lend a hand, or is up to me? EuroSong talk 15:31, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

Parody songs[edit]

This article mentions that cover songs are not allowed, but does that mean that parody songs are not allowed as well? 24.250.2.248 (talk) 21:48, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

Clear cut in the article - as long as the lyrics and tune are original, then it's fine (e.g. the Nick Clegg song or We Are The Winners). Spa-Franks (talk) 11:50, 29 August 2013 (UTC)

Rule changes for breaking ties[edit]

The 2009 rules (http://eurovision.tv/upload/esc2009rules.pdf) say:

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121.90.247.186 (talk) 11:43, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

Lack of historical perspective[edit]

This article should be divided into basic rules, i.e. rules that have never changed or have been the same for at least the last 20 years, and rules that have changed through the years. Also, it should clearly state which of the rules that are new, and when they were implemented. As the article currently stands, a reader may, for instance, be lead to think that the two pan-European semi-finals have been around for years, when, in fact, they were introduced for the 2009 contest. Thomas Blomberg (talk) 10:59, 17 May 2009 (UTC)

i removed a broken link[edit]

the link linking to the rules for 2008 was broken so i removed it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.208.86.142 (talk) 11:59, 30 January 2011 (UTC)

Musical instruments[edit]

"Live music ban"

So, have a look at Finland this year, UK in 2003 (and in 2004) and Bosnia & Herzegovina this year... the list goes on of guitars and pianos (Romania in 2010 & 2011) played. (By the way, Moldova 2010's famous saxophone was faking) What is recognised by the officials? --Spa-Franks (talk) 09:18, 14 August 2011 (UTC)

Purely instrumental songs and live instruments not allowed?[edit]

1. Purely instrumental songs: the description here in the article was that instrumentals are considered "tantamount" to cheating (who chose such a horrible word?), anyway, can anyone explain how THAT is considered cheating? It doesn't make any sense and it doesn't reference anything at all, so I'm simplifying that description into the only thing we have as a fact, which is that there has never been a purely instrumental composition in the contest.

2. Now, the thing about live instruments... As Spa-Franks says above me, there have been some instruments in the contest in recent years. Sure, maybe a guitar can be unplugged so that it's only "for show", and the aforementioned saxophone can just be "not blown into" so that it doesn't produce a sound, but what about the drums? You can't really unplug an acoustic drumkit so... I think we need more clarification into the whole "live music ban". Does it apply to everything except percussion instruments or something? Cancerbero 8 (talk) 13:56, 5 April 2012 (UTC)

One more thing - in 2003, the Russian entry, Ne ver', ne boysia's studio version features no drums but there are drums in the live performance. Spa-Franks (talk) 14:29, 19 April 2012 (UTC)

Languages section[edit]

Does anyone else think the list of years/countries with "unusual" language choices is trivia? What does it take to qualify for that section? Why is Germany's reprise sung in four common Eurovision languages special? And how is Austria's use of German special? It's also terribly out of date. Esma sang in Romani in 2013, for example. Can we just remove this section entirely? Mr. Gerbear|Talk 08:11, 29 August 2013 (UTC)