Talk:Russian conquest of Siberia

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Destiny[edit]

Was Russia's eastward expansion part of its national destiny, like that of the United States' Manifest Destiny to dominate the North American continent? If so, what expression did they use to describe this destiny? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.48.136.25 (talk) 23:16, 16 June 2011 (UTC)

At the first stages of this expansion it was hardly a national destiny. Muscovy's Third Rome ideology was concentrated on already known lands of former Kievan Rus and fallen Byzantine Empire, but the Time of Troubles restricted state's abilities of any global conquests. Thus the leading force were primarily economic ambitions of cossacks and pomors trading with some siberian peoples as well as some Russian nobles planning mining at Urals. Siberia was included into Russian ideology later, after its major part had been explored. There wasn't need in strong ideological vector because the most of territories were hardly suitable for agriculture and had very low population. So the expression was simple: Siberian peoples were declared to be peacefully included into the reign of Christian civilization.--213.208.170.194 (talk) 08:31, 4 May 2012 (UTC)