Talk:Russians

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Remove Lenin NOW[edit]

"There has been general consensus on several talk pages not to include dictators, criminals, etc. to the picture gallery" - Talk:Austrians

For the same reason that the dictator Adolf Hitler has been barred from being included in the page on both Germans and Austrians, Valdimere Lenin must, for the sake of NPOV, be removed from the image on the page of Russians immediately. Whether you like him or not, his actions, including his use of a Coup d 'etat to secure power, have considered him to be a dictator and thus NOT ALLOWED in any collage about peoples.

Remove him now or include Hitler in the Austrians page. I hate both men but either both are presented in their respected nationalities pages or both are excused. This is the consensus of Wikipedia and ideological attachment cannot override the NPOV rules.

Lenin is not universally accepted as a dictator. And even if he was, he is nowhere close to being as negative of a historic figure as Hitler ever was. For the record, Stalin is included in the infobox of Georgians. --Երևանցի talk 06:12, 16 December 2013 (UTC)
No red herrings please. Who or what is included on the Georgians infobox is irrelevant to this page. The issue of including Lenin has been debated ad nauseum and the consensus has always been not to include him. Please go read the archived debates (see the links above). If you think you have good reasons to include Lenin and those reasons are not the same tired arguments that have consistently been defeated over and over, we can have a discussion. As it stands now, Lenin was added back into the collage without consensus and can be removed without consensus. 50.46.245.232 (talk) 15:16, 5 January 2014 (UTC)
Should then Napoleon be considered as a dictator for usurping power, Coup d'etat and attempts to conquer the world? Or any other person who started or who was a leader of revolution in his country? As for the ethnicity, every member of any European royal family should be removed from the similar positions due to the enormous amount of royal marriages between the states... Going back to Lenin, he was not only an important leader of the country and a part of its history, but also an important Marxist theorist, acknowledged even by the Western International Relations theorists. 0zzz3 (talk) 15:02, 27 May 2014 (UTC)

Alexander Pushkin?

Well as we here discuss, should people be defined as belonging to an ethnicity be based on some "ethno-racial" criteria. Lenin f. ex, he may not have been ethnically pure Russian Ok.. Then the question about Alexandr Pushkin should be the same, as he is included in the box, but you are aware that one of his parents was of African/Ethiopian descent, so why should he be included? As the issue with Lenin not a "pure" Russian. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.89.116.11 (talk) 01:27, 3 February 2014 (UTC)

Are you people that clueless about Lenin? He didn't have a single drop of recent Russian ancestry. He was Swedish, Russian Jewish, and Kalmyk/Tatar. Putting him in the collage is inappropriate considering his lack of Russian ancestry. If Lenin, or other "Russians", aren't removed soon. Then the whole collage goes down.Khazar (talk) 22:40, 9 February 2014 (UTC)

Infobox[edit]

Please edit this infobox with examples of Russians. There are many greater Russians who not list. This moaner Khazar constantly revert my recommendation which is undoubtedly better. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Misanthropo (talkcontribs) 18:09, 17 May 2014 (UTC)

Seems that you're the one whining here. The infobox was designed to be gender neutral and include ethnic Russians who've made significant contributions. Some are well known, other are not despite their crucial contributions to science and literature. That's why Losev and Prokhorov are included. Also, Fyodor Dostoyevsky is not even Russian and is actually Lithuanian. The only ones in the infobox who aren't >50% Russian are Anna Pavlova and Sergei Korolev. If you look towards the bottom center of the editing box, you'll see in bold: Sign your posts on talk pages:(with four tildas). Be sure to do that. Khazar (talk) 18:50, 17 May 2014 (UTC)

Dostoyevsky is HALF Lithuanian. The father of Pavlova is unknown. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Misanthropo (talkcontribs) 20:51, 18 May 2014 (UTC)

Infobox people[edit]

I suggest replacing Anna Kournikova with Alina Kabaeva. She is well known and was more successfull in her area of expertise.Epoxyorlyx (talk) 10:11, 30 May 2014 (UTC)

Why would you use a Tatar sportswoman to illustrate Russians? --176.195.162.81 (talk) 13:29, 23 June 2014 (UTC)

The infobox[edit]

State all your objections here before planning to edit and revert. Khazar (talk) 00:16, 8 July 2014 (UTC)

Soviet Cinema[edit]

State all your supporting points for this irrelevant information to be re-added. Khazar (talk) 00:16, 8 July 2014 (UTC)