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Soviet Politicians? [edit]

Do we absolutely have to have Soviet Politicians? I mean the Russians did so many great things, we all know that. But Soviet politics wasn't one of them. I mean we don't have Lenin, Stalin, Khrushchev, Brezhnev, Chernenko, Andropov, insert Soviet politician here, so why Gorbachev? Why have any at all? They're all controversial, and might still be offensive to people who are still living. I mean Ivan the Terrible was bad, but it's not like he messed up the family of anyone alive today. I'm sorry, I just don't see the reason for it. Instead of Gorbachev, why not put a Soviet rockstar? Or a famed filmmaker like Bodrov? Or one of the two Soviet female pilot fighter aces in WWII? And that goes for any politicians, even including the current Russian ones. For Americans, we get Franklin, but none of the current politicians are shown. 71.165.41.87 (talk) 21:13, 24 April 2012 (UTC)

So, no objections to removing Gorbachev? 71.165.41.173 (talk) 23:33, 2 May 2012 (UTC)

Yes, please remove Gorbachyov, he doesn't deserve to be there. 78.84.6.86 (talk) 06:45, 17 December 2012 (UTC)

Russian genetics [edit]

Evidence that the northern Russian genetically related Finns outdated. In the original article is written: "In particular, the northern Russian by Y-chromosome markers have a more significant similarity with distant Balts than closer Finno-Ugric peoples. According mtDNA northern Russian gene pools are similar to Western and Central Europe. This gene pool Finnish people as distant from the northern Russian. study autosomal markers also brings northern Russian and other European nations, and calls into question the Finno-Ugric reservoir in the northern Russian gene pool. this data can hypothesize about saving in these areas of the ancient paleoevropeyskogo substrate that has experienced intense migration of ancient Slavic tribes." Correct. Sorry for my bad English, because I am from Russia. P.S. also, I suggest to add data about the fact that the Mongolian population is not native Russian, because I often hear Deletant opinion about the fact that Russian descended from the Mongols. This is nonsense too. 37.79.91.46 (talk) 07:39, 26 August 2012 (UTC)

Y-chromosome markers cannot show whether two peoples are related, they pertain solely to male ancestry. If you look at the Y-DNA of Mexicans, you'd think they are Spaniards with minute native admixtures, which is untrue. Autosomal DNA analysis shows that Northern Russians (e.g., from Vologda) have large Finno-Ugric admixtures. See any ADMIXTURE analysis at, e.g., Dodecad, Eurogenes, MDLP, etc. --217.172.29.4 (talk) 15:29, 9 December 2012 (UTC)

About R1a1 in Kyrgyz population not correct. Kyrgyz population with R1a1 only from Jumgal District. The descent of the Kyrgyz from the autochthonous Siberian population is confirmed by genetic studies.[14] For instance, 63% of modern Kyrgyz men of Jumgal District[15] Other groups of Kyrgyz show considerably lower haplogroup R frequencies and almost lack haplogroup N. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.61.52.56 (talk) 13:39, 17 September 2012 (UTC)

Please, stop adding Israel [edit]

The number 1,500,000 is the approximate number of the immigrants of the great wave of Aliyah from the USSR and the former Soviet republics during the 1990's and somehow 2000's. The majority of these immigrants are ethnic Jews (the fact that made them possible to immigrate to Israel under the Zionist law of Return), the rest are from partial Jewish ancestry or non-Jewish people married to Jews / people of Jewish ancestry. The number of ethnic Russians in Israel seems to be difficult to estimate, since the official Israeli census doesn't even deal with the ethnic affiliation of the immigrants that are not considered as "Jews", but merely define them as "non-Jewish citizens" you shoudn't use this website it sucks

"ethnic Russians" = "этнические россияне" [edit]

In English, the term "Russian" means related to Russia (born in Russia, living in Russia, a citizen of Russia, the official language of Russia, etc). It is a common misconception that if you add the word "ethnic" to the word "Russian" the result would be what we call "русский". An English equivalent of the people that came from Rus should be based on the word Rus and not on the word Russia. Otherwise, "ethnic Russians" means "этнические россияне" which does not make any sense at least to someone who knows how many different peoples have lived for centuries in Russia.

178.176.151.119 (talk) 22:09, 3 February 2013 (UTC) 178.176.151.119 (talk) 22:09, 3 February 2013 (UTC)

Religious claims [edit]

It seems like someone added in a bunch of information about religion but without providing more reliable sources for those claims... For example, I couldn't find a proper source or citation for "Islam with over 100,000 ethnic Russian followers" - the citation at the end of this sentence doesn't seem to support this claim, so I suggest finding a better source for it (I couldn't find any that mentions these numbers in relation to "ethnic Russians") or removing it altogether.Rndomuser (talk) 02:13, 28 February 2013 (UTC)