Talk:Sade (band)

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Singer vs. Band[edit]

Seems to me Sade's musicians should not be separated from the singer herself. There isn't a band called Sade, with a singer named Sally Smith singing lead, the individual's name is Sade and she already has a Wikipedia entry. Her musicians and recording history should be merged into that entry. J. Van Meter 08:57, 4 September 2005 (UTC)

The article's pretty much a stub as it is. Seems like a good idea to me. -- Mpk 18:38, 4 September 2005 (UTC)
I agree. I don't get this whole idea that Sade is a band in the first place. That's like saying "Tim McGraw" is a band. Sade is a solo artist w/ backup musicians, just as Tim McGraw is. The article even states, "Sade is the only one featured on covers and the only consistent 'member of the band'" To me, that pretty much implies that the other musicians are backup and not part of a band called Sade.
I fourth the motion. The idea that the band Sade is somehow different or distinct from the singer Sade seems ludicrous to me. I'd never heard of such an idea until I looked her (yes "her", not "them") up on here. AaronzDad (talk) 04:10, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
Sade is the band. Sade Adu is the lead singer of that band. There are articles for both. Xihr (talk) 07:14, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
But on what basis do you make that claim Xihr? Is there anyone associated with Sade the singer or the musicians who perform with her making this distinction?? Drummer Paul Cook claims on his MySpace page "I am a British composer and musician responsible for the drums and song creation on one of the biggest albums of the 80's called 'Diamond Life' by the group I founded called Sade." However Ryan Waters' website states "As the youngest and only American member of Sade’s legendary band... " implying that Sade is a singer with a backup band. If only someone could call Sade herself and just ask. AaronzDad (talk) 22:05, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
I found a couple of old vinyl recordings. On the album cover is shown: 'Sade are', followed by the names of the four band members. Sade has been indeed the name of the band.

--82.173.130.75 (talk) 13:49, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

It's hard to see what "claim" there is to back up. Pick up any Sade album, look at the list of members of the band. Sade is the name of the band. Sade Adu is the name of the lead singer of the band. The band is named after her, but the band is not named "Sade Adu," or "Helen Folasade Adu." The band is named "Sade." Band, person; person, band. Xihr (talk) 18:48, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

Response : Helen Folasade Adu and the rest of the band say to their fans they are a band because the lady alone has hardly ever appeared alone except in the movie Absolute Begginers or on the song she penned for the Darfur crisis, song named Mum.

Most of the instrumental lines/melodies are written by the three musicians in Sade, Stuart Mathewman, Paul Denman and Andrwe Hale, Sade Adu writes all her lyrics (except as quoted bellow) and often co writes the music as well. Sometimes but rarely other people are involved in the song writing. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.104.159.63 (talk) 13:24, 8 November 2009 (UTC)

Response : Sade is a band that bears the name of Sade Adu the singer who happens to write all her lyrics exept two "Why Can't We Live Together - 1984" and "Please Send Me Someone To Love - 1994" and cowrites music with other band members. That's it no less no more.

Sweetback[edit]

I've removed the link Sweetback because that word currently points at Sweet Sweetback's Baadasssss Song, the seventies movie. It would seem more sensible to me to either disambig the word or have Sweetback point to the band, with the movie being Sweetback (movie) or Sweet Sweetback or whatever, but at the moment it isn't StuartDouglas 21:23, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

That section is for "see also," so having the text there with no wiki link doesn't make any sense. It should either be there with a link to a (nonexistent) article that may be filled out later, or it shouldn't be there at all. I added it back as Sweetback (band). Xihr 00:40, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
That's cool - the only point I was making was that it originally pointed to the wrong page and so it was better to have nothing than the wrong thing. I've amended the link so that it follows usual Wiki display conventions though StuartDouglas 09:32, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

New album?[edit]

Someone's been adding entries in the (redundant, now removed) discography on the Sade Adu page for an upcoming Sade album in 2007, apparently titled X Lounge. Whoever's making the edits isn't adding any references, and I can't find anything about it on the official Sade news sites. Does anyone know anything about this? Is it anything more than a rumor at this point? Xihr 22:15, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

Response : In spring 2009 a lot of rumours have emerged about a new recording, one major source came from Maxwell who has worked with Sade's Stuart Mathewman on three of his recordings. He gave some hints about a new Sade album but did not revealed a date of release. In the meantime a web site called sade2009.com has been speculating a release date of an album, suposuedly named "Love Supreme" for 24th of november 2009. Sony Music has asked the owner of the sade2009.com web site to deny his own information. Sony music, however, confirmed something was in preparation but no date of release was announced.

In July 2009 Stuart Mathewman appeared on sade.com, saying "we are hard at it, thanks for your patience, Stuart, Paul, Andrew and Sade" —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.104.159.63 (talk) 13:34, 8 November 2009 (UTC)

Non-existent infobox image[edit]

Her image appears to have been deleted. I have removed the redlink reference in the infobox. Thanks. Refsworldlee(chew-fat)(eds) 00:17, 28 April 2007 (UTC)

Pronunciation[edit]

When Epic Records made a point of putting "Pronounced Shar-Day" on her albums for years why does this article claim it's "pronounced 'shah-day'"?? Yes, almost all DJ's and audiophiles pronounce it wrong but this is supposed to be a reliable source isn't it? AaronzDad (talk) 04:15, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

Because, as has been covered over and over again in these talk pages, the shar-day pronunciation was intended for UK speakers, who are non-rhotic. Rhotic speakers, such as Americans or Canadians, will pronounce the R, which is incorrect according to Sade's own pronunciation (she sings her own name in "Maureen") and the IPA pronunciation which is provided. The pronunciation shah-day is the only one which will result in the correct pronunciation from all international English speakers. Xihr (talk) 01:36, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

I agree, I've attempted to correct this on both articles, but it has been re-edited to the incorrect pronunciation in each case. I will correct them again. SilverTab (talk) 19:45, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

It might make sense to mention this in the article. The U.S. release of Diamond Life listed the erroneous "shar-day" pronunciation on the spine of the CD/LP/cassette, causing this mispronunciation to become universal in the rhotic countries. ProhibitOnions (T) 08:06, 11 October 2009 (UTC)

Writing style[edit]

I understand that the article needed to be "internationalized", but is it really necessary to talk about how many "units" the band have sold worldwide in the introduction? Surely there are more interesting aspects to Sade's music? 84.198.246.199 (talk) 22:24, 14 December 2009 (UTC)

It's like that on wikipedia for all artists. I suppose it's notable when an artist or group has sold more than 50 million records worldwide.75.22.18.97 (talk) 22:33, 16 January 2010 (UTC)

Video Release[edit]

Album: Diamond Life

1. Your Love is King 3.37

   Directed by Jack Semmens


2. Smooth Operator 4:17

    Directed by Julian Temple


3. Hang On To Your Love 3:58

     Directed by Brian Ward

4. When Am I Going To Make a Living 3:34

     Directed by: Unknown  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Allentexas2010 (talkcontribs) 09:49, 19 January 2010 (UTC)