Talk:Saenuri Party

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Korean name?[edit]

Does this party have a Korean name? Even the Korean article uses the English name! DHN 20:05, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

Yes. Han-nara. Progressive(Democratic Labour) and Pro-govt(Uri and Democrats) supporters are pretend to be call that party as ddan-nara(means 'Another-national' in Korean). Peterhansen2032, 12:25, 26 July 2007(KST).

Wow. Just wow.[edit]

Article's pretty incredibly biased.

Will change when I have time. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 58.178.79.39 (talk) 03:35, 23 March 2007 (UTC).

As a South Korean citizen(and truly detest this party's policy personally), I do have to mention that, the true image of this party which shown this page should be correct with including the bright side of the party's members, policies, and some historic facts. In outside Korea, people don't realise what the Korean History really was(especially during our faded-page of Military regimes period). However, the time has gone, and this party tries hard to adjust in this democratic era, so I should mention that there are some reason which not just looking as negatively. I've just finished helping this work.Peterhansen2032, 12:20, 26 July 2007(KST).

Main picture[edit]

The heck? This thing's huge! May need resizing.

Biased[edit]

This is waaay too biased. --Kuanhui 14:06, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

General Comments[edit]

Reviewing all the articles on other Korean parties, it appears they all have a rather negative, if not outright biased viewpoint. It doesn't help that much of the info isn't sourced at all, and when they are, they point to a few media articles. Anyone can cite a source, but it doesn't make that point valid. No wonder scholars reject wikipedia as a credible source (although they could and should help out, not just criticize, since more and more people are refering to wikipedia for general information).

Another translation[edit]

Couldn't the name of this party also be translated as "Korean Nation"? After all, "Han" in Korean commonly refers to Korean things (the native name of Korea, at least in South Korea, is Hanguk; in North Korea it is Chosun). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.171.227.114 (talk) 16:40, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

That's what "grand" stands for; Hanguk is, in a theory, "Grand Nation." —jisok 04:21, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
For future reference, the ambiguity is intentional, but "one" is the official reading rather than "Korean". --Tyrannus Mundi (talk) 13:17, 7 March 2012 (UTC)

Party colour[edit]

Are we going with red or blue for the party colour in info tables and the like? Red is given in this article and seems to be official but blue is being used in a lot of other places for continuity purposes --Tyrannus Mundi (talk) 13:16, 7 March 2012 (UTC)

Sae-nuri Party was in succession to Han-nara Party. And logo color of Sae-nuri Party is Bule. [1] So, we are to use bule color in my opinion. --Idh0854 (talk) 07:17, 11 March 2012 (UTC)
In my view the dominant color is red. --RJFF (talk) 11:28, 11 March 2012 (UTC)

Page rewrite[edit]

Due to the many issues with this page, I have decided to start rewriting the page comprehensively at User:Tyrannus Mundi/Saenuri Party, incorporating the useful aspects of the present content. If anyone objects to this please let me know. --Tyrannus Mundi (talk) 22:56, 7 March 2012 (UTC)

Name of party[edit]

What does Saenuri mean in English? Why is this party called by its Korean name when all other parties are called by their English names? Intelligent Mr Toad (talk) 04:36, 13 April 2012 (UTC)

Saenuri means "new world", and their English name is New Frontier Party (NFP). PBJT (talk) 06:54, 13 April 2012 (UTC)

Now that the Saenuri Party has an official English name, would it be advisable to rename this page to New Frontier Party? I see no reason why it should continue to be called by its Korean name. Western media outlets are referring to this party as NFP, as well. Humorahead01 (talk) 07:26, 18 December 2012 (UTC)

Is Saenuri a "conservative party" or a "right-wing conservative party"?[edit]

This was taken, somewhat ridiculously, to ANI before being discussed here. While I personally think "right-wing conservative" sounds ridiculous, I might be wrong.

Discuss.

Hijiri 88 (やや) 12:33, 2 March 2015 (UTC)

@Hijiri88: Many of reliable sources said that Saenuri is a centre-right party. (including the report published by the House of Commons of the United Kingdom) 1, 2, 3, 4, 5.

--117.53.77.84 (talk) 14:25, 2 March 2015 (UTC)

And how does this relate to the problem I mentioned above? As far as I'm concerned it's an English problem "right-wing" and "conservative" mean pretty much the same thing, so using both sounds redundant. Does that mean I agree with you? Frankly I already know where you're coming from, and as whether "right-wing" should be added on top of "conservative", I think I agree. I'm more interested in seeing what is motivating User:Travelbybus. (I still suspect it to be nothing more than poor English -- someone who doesn't bother to look up "conservative" in the dictionary and doesn't know it to see, but knows "right-wing" might think that the version you and I prefer is censoring discussion of their political position.) Hijiri 88 (やや) 15:47, 3 March 2015 (UTC)

Saenuri Party is a conservative South Korean political party, similar with the Republican Party (United States).Marxistfounder (talk) 13:56, 3 March 2015 (UTC)

I'm Irish and I live in Japan, so comparisons to the GOP are not going to work: am I supposed to read your comparison like the mainstream in my home country would ("Saenuri are a far-right, conservative Christian, pro-war, pro-corporate party"), like liberal Americans would ("Saenuri are conservative") or like conservative Americans would ("Saenuri are not liberal")? Hijiri 88 (やや) 15:47, 3 March 2015 (UTC)
@Marxistfounder: Saenuri is a conservative political party, but its policy (both social and economic) is different from the Republican Party. --117.53.77.84 (talk) 03:06, 4 March 2015 (UTC)
@Hijiri88: In Wikipedia, right-wing means that radical right party like the UKIP. Also, left-wing means that radical left party like Sinn Fein. Which uses the the term centre-right/left for mainstream right/left. --117.53.77.84 (talk) 03:06, 4 March 2015 (UTC)

@Travelbybus: --117.53.77.84 (talk) 15:23, 10 April 2015 (UTC)