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Untitled[edit]

These paragraphs were removed from the main article as they were not in the correct form for an he would become worthy. Jesus chooses all of us in the same way. What does Jesus want you to become?

In His Footsteps:----

I found the original quote from Clement at www.ccel.org/fathers2/, and am going to put that text back in without commentary, and with the citation. Hope that's sufficiently NPOV. (And no, I didn't insert the original text quoted above, and fully agree with its removal.) Wesley


In my tweaks and tightening, substituting another quote for paraphrase, etc, I've removed the following, which is factually incorrect:

According to Acts i:21 - 22), Matthias was one of the seventy disciples of Jesus, and had been with him from his baptism by John to the Ascension The author does subtly imply that the 120 gathered about had been with Jesus since his baptism in the River Jordan, which is stretching a point. Matthias is not individually singled out. Does this point, made to strengthen the authenticity of the newly-chosen apostle, need to be discussed in the article? --Wetman 20:11, 3 May 2005 (UTC)

Restoring/removing interwiki[edit]

Of the Interwiki links made by a bot a few days ago, all that were in languages which I could make any sence out of (sv:, pl:, it:, fr:, nl:) pointed at S:t Matthew. I changed sv: and removed the rest (don't speak those languages). I also removed zh:, ko:, and ru:, assuming that they too, added by the same bot at the same time, were likely to be false. /Dcastor 02:16, 13 July 2005 (UTC)

Codex Barroccianus[edit]

I can find no information about this whatsoever. Can anyone elaborate on attribution? User:michaelkvance

Colchis[edit]

Going along with the tradition that Matthias died in Colchis, I recently witnessed a grave marker for him placed in the Roman ruin at Gonio in Georgia (unfortunately the marker gave little information about the source(s) of this tradition). I added this information to the article. --68.162.157.62 17:25, 6 August 2006 (UTC)JDWS

Image[edit]

Are you sure that this image represents Saint Matthias? The Greek caption says Ο Αγιος Ματθαίος -> Saint Mattheos = Matthew and not Matthias (Saint Matthias would be: Ο Αγιος Ματθίας). Slovene User:Marino —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 89.212.1.189 (talk) 10:10, 4 February 2007 (UTC).

You are right, the picture depicts Saint Matthew and not Saint Matthias--K kokkinos (talk) 07:49, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

I added an image representing Matthias, rather than Matthew. --Aaron Walden Tsalagisigline.gif 10:09, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

Anglican Commemoration date[edit]

This years Anglican Common Worship lectionary (ISBN 0-7151-2110-3) describes the commemoration of St Matthias on May 14th, not February 24th. I don't know enough to suggest when this changed or whether either date is 'traditional' Gw russell 20:32, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

Move discussion in progress[edit]

  • There is a move discussion in progress on Talk:Bartholomew the Apostle which affects this page. Please participate on that page and not in this talk page section. Thank you. —RM bot 18:30, 10 February 2010 (UTC)
  • That discussion was closed as "no concensus after 14 days". Anthony Appleyard (talk) 11:26, 24 February 2010 (UTC)

Fox's book of Martyrs[edit]

Fox's Book of Martyrs says that he was stone at Jerusalem and then beheaded. Here's the text: "Matthias Of whom less is known than of most of the other disciples, was elected to fill the vacant place of Judas. He was stoned at Jerusalem and then beheaded." Saksjn (talk) 22:18, 1 March 2010 (UTC)

Requested move[edit]

The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: page moved per discussion below. GTBacchus(talk) 17:47, 12 May 2010 (UTC)



Matthias the ApostleSaint Matthias — The issues here are similar to a recent move of "Saint Matthew". This person is already the primary meaning of "Saint Matthias", and is the only Christian saint of this name. There is a "Saint Matthias (disambiguation)" page, but this mostly lists churches and the like, the only other person here is a religious con artist who sometimes used this name. Relisted for further input. Jafeluv (talk) 21:56, 22 April 2010 (UTC)

PatGallacher (talk) 15:50, 31 March 2010 (UTC)

  • Comment the current naming clearly delineates this person from run of the mill saints, and seems that for all apostles, would be a good idea, since they existed before the formal sainting system was developed... 76.66.192.73 (talk) 05:40, 1 April 2010 (UTC)
"They existed before the formal sainting system was developed" is a historical and theological minefield, which, although it would be appropriate to discuss in the context of some articles, would be better not to get into for the purpose of deciding article names. PatGallacher (talk) 11:27, 5 April 2010 (UTC)
  • Support per UCN. Flamarande (talk) 21:03, 3 April 2010 (UTC)
  • Comment The previous move was made with the note that 'Saint' violates wikipedia's policy on honorifics. (A note that that has not been addressed in this discussion.) --RegentsPark (talk) 18:43, 22 April 2010 (UTC)
I quote the naming conventions for clergy at WP:NCWC: "Saints go by their most common English name, minus the 'Saint', unless they are only recognisable by its inclusion. For example, Paul of Tarsus, Ulrich of Augsburg but Saint Patrick." So I suggest this doesn't violate any policy, it is allowable. PatGallacher (talk) 14:37, 25 April 2010 (UTC)
  • Support because Matthias was not one of the original Apostles (he was chosen to replace Judas Iscariot by the other 11 Apostles), so Saint Matthias seems a better description. Other saints, such as Saint Dismas, use saint in their title where the name is not adequate by itself. An alternative would be a move to Matthias, which at the moment is a dab page. Cjc13 (talk) 13:37, 25 April 2010 (UTC)
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

Something peculiar seems to have happened here. It looks as the discussed move was never actually made? Anyway, moved now. In ictu oculi (talk) 07:01, 9 January 2011 (UTC)

Oh, or alternatively I've probably just misread the discussion above. Ooops. Someone will probably reverse it. Well anyway, it's hardly an NPOV naming. In ictu oculi (talk) 07:03, 9 January 2011 (UTC)


St Matthias' Day[edit]

I have just put in a little information about St. Matthias' Day. Does any one think it might deserve its own article? ACEOREVIVED (talk) 15:59, 28 February 2012 (UTC)

I've tagged your recent insertion as needing a reference to prove it is legitimate info. Please supply that link before someone deletes it as your original research.
As far as deserving its own article, that would be up for you to decide. If you have enough material (and references to back up that info), anything is deserving. Ckruschke (talk) 17:55, 28 February 2012 (UTC)Ckruschke


Thank you for the response. The source of my information was a book I read a long time ago called "Everybody's Birthday Book" which had about the days of the year and the special features of them. It was a long time ago when I read it, so I can see whether I can find some more recent sources! ACEOREVIVED (talk) 20:53, 28 February 2012 (UTC)