Talk:Salt March

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This article lacks an NPOV treatment of the subject. In particular, in the background, it fails to mention that the idea of breaking the salt law as mooted by Gandhi was thought to be too weak to stir up the independence movement by Motilal Nehru and others in Congress as well as by the British government which did not anticipate the wide following that Dandi march got. --Just my 2 cents -- Hemanshu 20:11, 13 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Those issues have been taken care of. ~ priyanath talk 04:23, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

Since this (choice of salt) was one of the most notable things about the whole movement, this discussion has been given its own section, with many Indian views and counterviews, one British view (Irwin), and a final 'conclusion' sort in favor of Gandhi's choice. VishalB (talk) 20:24, 17 September 2010 (UTC)

Is the Tax Resistance box really relevant to this subject? --wrighttj

No, it's been removed. ~ priyanath talk 04:23, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

why is there a huge gap just before the 'the march' chapter? am i the only one who can see this? there is no gap in the edit page so whats going on?

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This page is nearly identical to http://english.emory.edu/Bahri/Dandi.html, and that page is much better cited. I suspect that this page was copied from that one without proper references and in possible violation of copyright. I think it should be looked into. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.171.61.142 (talk) 00:13, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

Thanks, article has been rewritten, with many references and citations. ~ priyanath talk 04:23, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

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Moving History of the Agitation Against Salt Tax

I've moved this section to the bottom of the article, since it's not directly relevant to Salt Satyagraha and the events surrounding Salt Satyagraha (unless we put the entire history of British rule, taxes, the making of salt, etc. into the article - which is already on the lengthy side). This is only a placeholder - when I have time in the next few days I'll break this section off into it's own article and have a link from this article to the new one.

Also, this is a GA, and close to FA quality article. The one link referencing this extremely overly long section does not qualify as a Reliable Source under WP:RS - another reason for having its own, non-reliably sourced article. And, this section is still arguably a copyright violation taken from here[1], which is why it was removed the first time. Removing copyright violations is not considered 'blanking', but is part of wikipedia policy. Making only slight edits to text taken from another website is not enough to avoid copyright violations. When the section is moved to its own article, that will still be an issue that needs to be resolved. ~ priyanath talk 18:21, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

The content has now been moved to the newly created article History of the British salt tax in India, with a link in this article to that page, in keeping with other subjects related to Salt Satyagraha. Further history of salt, salt taxes, agitation and protests against the salt tax should be put in that article. This article deals specifically with the Salt Satygraha of 1930 and the events surrounding that particular historic episode in India's Independence Movemement. The new article still has serious issues of potential copyright violation and lack of references, and needs some work. ~ priyanath talk 01:28, 15 March 2008 (UTC)

Anachronistic names

Many Indian place names have been changed in recent years, e.g. Poona to Pune, and there are many examples of this in this article. In general, I take the view that articles should reflect the contemporary naming of the events in them, as they form a reference, so (say) an article on the terrorist attacks in Mumbai should say that, with possibly something like "Mumbai (formerly Bombay)" in its first reference - and, contrariwise, an article on the Black Hole of Calcutta should mention Calcutta, with possibly something like "Calcutta (now Kolkata)" in its first reference. This is because the articles are for reference, and people might well be going to or coming from other contemporary source material as references.

Therefore, I feel that this article would benefit from being edited in this way, to reflect the contemporary naming of the 1920s and 1930s. However, I also know that this is a topic that is alive in current Indian discourse, so possibly that might be disruptive in that respect - quite apart from any reflexive reactions from people who are sensitive on the subject. So, can anyone suggest a suitable editing approach for the place names in this article? As it stands, the anachronistic names have made it disconnected from other contemporary material. PMLawrence (talk) 14:02, 26 December 2009 (UTC)

As the main (re-)writer of the article, I don't have any strong personal feeling about this. You are surely correct, since the sources would use the old name. But then of course the article is written for people of today. I think your approach would be fine, but I would go a bit farther and treat it like we treat wikilinks — i.e., add the (now Pune), for example, in its first usage in each section where it appears. That way people just reading one section as a reference would understand what current city we're talking about. Thanks for asking and discussing! Priyanath ^talk 15:26, 26 December 2009 (UTC)

I think you'll find that the actual names haven't changed merely the trans-literation of these names into English, the previous English names being originally trans-literated by non-linguists who were attempting to approximate the local pronunciations using English spelling and pronunciation rules. At the time India did not use the Roman alphabet and so these translations could not be based on written Indian place names. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.149.55.42 (talk) 10:19, 12 March 2019 (UTC)

Conflation with Civil Disobedience Movement

Each of "Dandi March", "Civil Disobedience Movement", and of course "Salt Satyagraha" bring one to this article. Even though each of these three overlap to a large extent, they also have distinct features. For example, picketing of liquor shops or boycotting of foreign cloth would primarily be part of Civil Disobedience Movement (CDM). At present, this theme is not dealt with in detail here, and logically shouldn't be either, since it's not Salt Satyagraha exactly. When next have time, will start a dedicated article on CDM, that has a summary of Dandi March & Salt Satyagraha, but focuses more on the non-salt features.VishalB (talk) 21:45, 17 September 2010 (UTC)

Summary of edits done in current burst (15 & 17 Sept 2010)

One full section on the "Choice of salt as protest focus." Has a variety of views on why salt was or was not considered an appropriate vehicle for a national protest movement. Incorporates some facts already present in the article, and adds several new ones, with appropriate references.

Slightly more information added about Dharasana Satyagraha, approx 5-6 additional sentences most relevant to this article. An explicit link to Dharasana ("Main article: Dharasana Satyagraha") has also been given, to emphasize that there is a lot more to that satyagraha. Since Dharasana was a key event of Salt Satyagraha, its name has been put in the relevant section title.

Tried to represent more events from other parts of India (i.e. beyond Gujarat). Added C. Rajagopalachari's views, and his parallel march and arrest on the east Coast, in sync with the main Dandi March.

P.S. Badshah Khan's work in Peshawar was already present, so now the article has a more pan-India feel. Certainly there would've been actions in the revolutionary hotbeds of Punjab and Bengal too. Will try to find and incorporate.VishalB (talk) 05:59, 18 September 2010 (UTC)

Miscellaneous info about Dandi March: length of marchers' line swelled to two miles; they used to sing Raghupati Raghava Raja Ram while walking; Gandhi's quote "On bended knees I asked for bread, but I have received stone instead."

Introduction had become slightly fragmented due to several edits over the years. Tried to make it more coherent. Did not add or remove any significant new information here.

Thanks to all previous editors (esp Priyanath) for making it a good article already.VishalB (talk) 21:45, 17 September 2010 (UTC)

Symbol of unity

I moved this comment, "The 78 satyagrahis symbolised th unity of the country as it included males and females from different religions along with one harijan who came together for this common cause from different parts of the country", from the article to here, because it was unsourced. I have no objection to including the comment in the article if a reliable source is cited. -- Donald Albury 12:37, 12 June 2011 (UTC)

independence of mauritius

As a mauritian, I know that 12 March was chosen to be the independence day to commemorate the salt march but I cannot find references to prove it. Please help, by posting a link . — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mip130916 (talk • contribs) 20:36, 18 September 2011 (UTC)

Propose rename to "Salt March"

The most common name for this event is "Salt March". Most books and articles refer to the event by this name, and few refer to it by the other name. Even in India "Salt March" is the common term. It looks like Salt March has redirected here since 2007 and this has never been discussed previously. I propose a rename to "Salt March" per WP:COMMONNAME. Any comments? Blue Rasberry (talk) 17:29, 15 October 2011 (UTC)

I moved it. Blue Rasberry (talk) 03:57, 24 October 2011 (UTC)

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A map would be useful

A map of the march would be useful for the readers (for example, something like this). Data could be taken from sources such as [2] or [3]. Razvan Socol (talk) 20:28, 29 December 2013 (UTC)

Confusing typo somebody should fix

The "March to Dandi" section begins "On 12 March 1930, Gandhi and 78 satyagrahis many of them were scheduled castes, set out on foot ..." This is not a correctly structured sentence in American or British English, and I doubt works in Indian English. However, I have absolutely no idea how to correct it. Will somebody who knows what is being talked about please fix? Thx! GeorgeTSLC (talk) 03:33, 15 August 2014 (UTC)

It's been fixed.

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Number who set off

This came to my attention when an edit was made changing number set off, from 78 to 72. Dalton's book say 78 [4] and the list of names in the article make 80[5]. Can someone advise? 90th anniversary next year. Whispyhistory (talk) 10:03, 31 July 2019 (UTC)

Inconsistent information relating to Gandhiji's volunteers in the Salt March

The number of volunteers in this article is 78 at one place while 79 at the other. The information is inconsistent. TheSilverStone (talk) 17:02, 6 October 2020 (UTC)

Malayalam

Dendi March 2409:4073:4E03:DB44:0:0:F6CA:B810 (talk) 14:51, 8 March 2022 (UTC)

Salt March

Mean and small point 2401:4900:5996:D423:0:0:28:9F41 (talk) 00:40, 22 September 2022 (UTC)

Kazicho?

Endha kazichath 42.108.124.81 (talk) 13:54, 8 February 2023 (UTC)

Gandhi ji salt march or dandi yatra

On 12 March 1930, Gandhiji decided to march from Sabarmati Ashram with his supporters to Dandi, a small village on the Gujarat seacoast. It was a part of the Civil Disobedience Movement, which he launched with the full support of the Indian National Congress and the people of India. 115.96.46.48 (talk) 03:51, 6 May 2023 (UTC)

Salt Satyagraha

Smg mumm 4w564fa⅔ 122.161.240.59 (talk) 13:20, 3 April 2024 (UTC)