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[edit] Suquamish Tribe approves same-sex marriage
The Suquamish Tribe in Washington (United States) has approved same-sex marriage. The sidebar should be updated and the tribe should be listed alongside the Coquille Tribe wherever it may be mentioned. Source: http://www.kitsapsun.com/news/2011/aug/01/suquamish-tribe-approves-same-sex-marriage/ 96.233.134.228 (talk) 03:41, 2 August 2011 (UTC)
- Then be bold and update the article and/or template. Me-123567-Me (talk) 14:21, 2 August 2011 (UTC)
- The template (which is semi-protected, so that a non-autoconfirmed user could not edit it) has been updated. --Nat Gertler (talk) 14:28, 2 August 2011 (UTC)
[edit] 11th century Spanish gay marriage ?
The article claims that "A same-sex marriage between the two men Pedro Díaz and Muño Vandilaz in the Galician municipality of Rairiz de Veiga in Spain occurred on April 16, 1061. They were married by a priest at a small chapel. The historic documents about the church wedding were found at Monastery of San Salvador de Celanova."
I think this should be removed.
The text of the document can be read here: http://www.msemanal.com/node/4974
That is just a contract of common life and work. The word "marriage" does not appear. There is no mention of a religious celebration by a priest in a chapel. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.30.139.183 (talk) 13:53, 29 December 2011 (UTC)
- Per Same-sex marriage and Marriage, a religious celebration is not required. AV3000 (talk) 15:59, 29 December 2011 (UTC)
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- But certainly to be "married by a priest at a small chapel" implies a religious celebration, doesn't it? So that at least should be removed from the article. In any case, the document is not about a marriage, the word is not used there. You would find this kind of common life contracts in many other parts of Europe in the Middle Ages, and I have no doubt that in some cases they may have served as a cover for homosexual relationships. But it was not a marriage, period. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.30.139.183 (talk) 00:44, 30 December 2011 (UTC)
Nothing in the source texts denotes marriage. It opens on that it's a formal agreement relating to property. Personally I'd like some one to look at the administration of how such a buissness contract would legally be laid out in such time in the Galician municipality. someone can correct me if I'm wrong but in 1032 Ferdinand I would have been the controlling monarch at the time til his death approximately 3 years later. This was a chaotic time completely. I think (and again correct me if I'm wrong) this also took place during the time of Reconquista. It was a very chaotic period my friends. I'm unsure of how uncommon it would be at that time period. then at the Same time another fact is this paper concerns a church and the ownership of it and the housing own it. Honestly look there is alot of things to look at. I personally suggest one of two scenarios. The first of which is to remove it. The second of which is not to so bluntly attribute it to fact and instead attribute them to the individual or individuals (historians and ect) who suggest that this was a marriage.
On another note I do not feel that the source provided for the article is a very good source on it's own at least so I do suggest taking on the above source the OP provided. They reference Professor John Boswell. As far as sources go you really can't beat Boswell when it comes to this topic. Or you could directly reference Boswells work Christianity, Social Tolerance, and Homosexuality , 1980. Though still I recommend tacking on the above source none the less if only to be more informative.24.115.19.178 (talk) 19:10, 29 December 2011 (UTC)
[edit] quintana roo
we need to add Same-sex marriage in Quintana Roo [1]LuciferWildCat (talk) 00:05, 3 January 2012 (UTC)
- See the discussion over at Talk:Recognition of same-sex unions in Mexico#Quintana Roo. Me-123567-Me (talk) 02:49, 3 January 2012 (UTC)
[edit] Alagoas: First Brazilian state has just legalized full Gay-Marriage
The state of Alagoas is the first one of the 27 Brazilian states which performs not only Gay civil partnerships, but instead, Gay marriage. All the other states are still performing gay civil unions.
I should add this information on the main article, and ask for better editors to correct my changes to the article if needed. Thanks 00:49, 8 January 2012 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Denisxavier (talk • contribs)
For discussion, see Template talk:Same-sex unions. Hekerui (talk) 18:38, 8 January 2012 (UTC)
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