Talk:Sangre de Cristo Mountains

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Redirect fix[edit]

I removed the redirect to Talk:Sangre de Cristo Range since the division between the two articles is pretty well established now. Comments about the Colorado portion (north of La Veta Pass) should go into Talk:Sangre de Cristo Range. -- Spireguy 02:41, 26 May 2007 (UTC)

List of peaks[edit]

I'm not happy with the list as it now stands. This is a whole grab-bag of issues that probably were even worse before this list was made but should be fixed while there's a few editors looking at this

  1. Prominence is not the primary criteria for peaks, though it is a worthwhile piece of data.
  2. The 500-meter cutoff is also quite arbitrary as meters are not even used in Colorado; the cutoff that IS used is 300 feet but this is not always enforced for historical reasons (see Challenger Point). Imposing a strict cutoff of any sort will ignore some important peaks (including 14ers) and I doubt you have a source to show that there are not *unnamed* peaks that should be on the list by that criteria.
  3. The subrange entry includes Sierra Blanca as one of the possibilities. I've seen different sites refer to the Sierra Blanca as part of the Northern Sangres or as their own subrange, I do not know what the USGS says about it. However my main problem is that there is no article about the Sierra Blanca, only one about Blanca Peak which isn't the same thing at all. That and the Sierra Blanca is not listed in this article as being one of the subranges!

Perhaps more to come. — jdorje (talk) 01:14, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

Prominent peaks is a list of the most topographically prominent peaks of the Sangre de Cristo Mountains.

  • Topographic prominence is almost universally used as a selection criteria for mountain peaks. Commonly used prominence cutoffs include 100 feet (30.480 m), 300 feet (91.440 m), 100 meters (328.084 ft), 500 feet (152.400 m), 250 meters (820.210 ft), 500 meters (1,640.420 ft), and 1,000 meters (3,280.840 ft). A minimum topographic prominence of 500 meters is commonly used as a criteria for major mountain peaks. If you wish to use a shorter minimum prominence criteria such as 300 feet, then you need to also use a minimum elevation criteria such as 14,000 feet.


The Nine Peaks of the Sangre de Cristo Mountains With At Least
14,000 Feet of Elevation and 300 Feet of Topographic Prominence
Rank Mountain Peak Subrange Elevation Prominence Isolation Eminence
1 Blanca Peak[1] Sierra Blanca 4374.111 = 14,351 feet
4374 m
1623.365 = 5,326 feet
1623 m
00166.43 = 103.4 miles
166.4 km
07.101 = 2.7 sq.mi.
7.101 km²
2 Crestone Peak[1] Crestones 4358.572 = 14,300 feet
4359 m
1388.059 = 4,554 feet
1388 m
00044.07 = 27.4 miles
44.1 km
06.050 = 2.3 sq.mi.
6.050 km²
3 Crestone Needle[1] Crestones 4329.009 = 14,203 feet
4329 m
0133.198 = 437 feet
133 m
00000.72 = 0.4 miles
0.7 km
00.577 = 0.2 sq.mi.
0.577 km²
4 Kit Carson Peak[1] Crestones 4319.265 = 14,171 feet
4319 m
0306.324 = 1,005 feet
306 m
00002.08 = 1.3 miles
2.1 km
01.323 = 0.5 sq.mi.
1.323 km²
5 Humboldt Peak[1] Crestones 4288.497 = 14,070 feet
4288 m
0360.883 = 1,184 feet
361 m
00002.27 = 1.4 miles
2.3 km
01.548 = 0.6 sq.mi.
1.548 km²
6 Culebra Peak[1] Culebra Range 4283.266 = 14,053 feet
4283 m
1471.270 = 4,827 feet
1471 m
00057.07 = 35.5 miles
57.1 km
06.302 = 2.4 sq.mi.
6.302 km²
7 Ellingwood Point[1] Sierra Blanca 4281.791 = 14,048 feet
4282 m
0098.146 = 322 feet
98 m
00000.83 = 0.5 miles
0.8 km
00.420 = 0.2 sq.mi.
0.420 km²
8 Mount Lindsey[1] Sierra Blanca 4281.693 = 14,048 feet
4282 m
0463.906 = 1,522 feet
464 m
00003.64 = 2.3 miles
3.6 km
01.986 = 0.8 sq.mi.
1.986 km²
9 Little Bear Peak[1] Sierra Blanca 4280.211 = 14,043 feet
4280 m
0108.814 = 357 feet
109 m
00001.58 = 1.0 miles
1.6 km
00.466 = 0.2 sq.mi.
0.466 km²

Please let me know of any 500 meter prominence peak that is not on this list. --Buaidh 13:25, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

cool public domain photos[edit]

here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/library_of_congress/tags/sangredecristo/ Northwesterner1 (talk) 07:23, 20 April 2008 (UTC)

Confused....[edit]

I love the summary of the notable peaks. I am getting kind of confused, though. The list of notable peaks is different in this article than in the Sangre de Cristo Range - and the source for the list in the range article. Can someone help me out? Thanks!--CaroleHenson (talk) 21:34, 30 September 2011 (UTC)

Oops, missed another thought: The range article doesn't mention what are supposed to be the 2nd and 3rd highest peaks (from this article) in the Sangre de Cristo range: Mount Herard and Bushnell Peak.--CaroleHenson (talk) 21:39, 30 September 2011 (UTC)

Literary references[edit]

This mountain range is referred to by Paul Simon of the title track of his hearts and bones album and by Cormac McCarthy in his novels. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.158.55.112 (talk) 06:00, 28 December 2011 (UTC)

Prominent peaks and subranges Section[edit]

The section starts off with "...divided into various subranges, described here from north to south." and then proceeds to list peaks by elevation, with information on the subranges in the comments of various peaks. How about describing the subranges in a paragraph preceding the list and removing that info from the comment section of the list? I'd need to confirm the north->south ordering of the subranges before I do a move myself. Or has this been discussed and discarded already, and the starting sentence simply an artifact? Zybthranger (talk) 15:50, 13 February 2012 (UTC)

I've made that change. I think the clearer differentiation between peak info and subrange info makes it flow better. ZybthRanger (talk) (contribs) 19:48, 7 March 2012 (UTC)