Talk:Santiago de Compostela

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History began in the 9th century?[edit]

- and the 9th century is is in the Middle Ages? "The city's Cathedral is the destination today, as it has been throughout history, of the important 9th century medieval pilgrimage route," Please fix this confusion.--Hugh7 (talk) 09:51, 3 February 2012 (UTC)

The botafumeiro[edit]

There's no mention of it... 136.145.192.75 18:46, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

References, books, links[edit]

This article seems to have many many people who want to post external links, books, travel guides etc. I am not sure at what point we say we have enough.--Filll 15:09, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

I have removed some of these today again. This article is like a cruft magnet.--Filll 14:10, 21 July 2007 (UTC)

Stub[edit]

This article is definitely a stub for such an important subject. Totally missing history, main sights, transportation etc. --Attilios 09:04, 21 July 2007 (UTC)

It is quite attrocious. Particularly the history I think is quite important. This supposedly was the site of a preChristian pagan pilgrimmage. There are all kinds of interesting stories about the period when the Moors dominated Spain and their activities in this area. The claim of this location as a putative burial site of St. James is also quite interesting, as well as the development of the pilgrimmage business. It is astounding that these more interesting aspects are not present, particularly in an encyclopedia. It should not just rehash the fact that this is the terminus of a pilgrimmage route, and provide a link farm to every commercial interest that comes along with something to peddle, but provide some deeper encyclopedic insight into this fascinating city.--Filll 14:14, 21 July 2007 (UTC)


Just checking with other Wikipedia versions of this article in other languages, I find that this article is around 6-7 KB, the German version is 15KB, the Spanish version is 22 KB and the French version is 28 KB. We have some catching up to do.--Filll 14:41, 21 July 2007 (UTC)

Actually most of the articles in different languages just rehash stuff that has already present in either the Way of St. James or Cathedral of Santiago de Compostela. ''[[User:Kitia|Kitia'']] 21:24, 14 October 2007 (UTC)

Latin name[edit]

I read that the Latin name was Campus Stellae (field of stars)? is this correct? yes it is

Coordinates[edit]

The coordinates currently listed in the side box for this article are:

Coordinates : 42°52′57.06″N 8°32′28.70″W

While those coordinates do land you within the town, most people coming to this article are probably trying to find the cathedral. I would suggest that the coordinates be changed to

Coordinates : 42°52′52.78″N 8°32′42.88″W

Which lands you in the crossing of the cathedral.

Interestingly, since it is one of the few buildings in town without a red tile roof and its roof is the same color as the surrounding pavement, it is actually on of the few cathedrals that was a bit of a challenge to find. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.76.170.113 (talk) 17:11, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

Recent change from Spanish to Galician[edit]

Do we really want to favor Galician over Spanish? I can imagine might having both in one or two places, but it strikes me as a very bad idea to change all instances of Spanish to Galician here.--Filll (talk) 03:14, 13 December 2007 (UTC)

I think we should use the English name as much as possible, I can see the use of Spanish (ie Castillian) as that is used worldwide to promote the way; also in the English speaking word. I would not favour the inclusion of a local language be it Basque, Catalonian or Galician; or other languages (French, German) as none of these are in broad use outside their own language area. Arnoutf (talk) 17:28, 14 December 2007 (UTC)

I think I agree.--Filll (talk) 18:16, 14 December 2007 (UTC)

I do not. Those are official languages in their areas, and we have the same situation in articles like the Edinburgh one (Scots: Edinburgh/Embra/Emburrie) (Gaelic:Dùn Èideann ) or even the Mumbai one (formerly called Bombay).

Gaelic and Scot are not exactly widely used outside their areas...

212.163.172.180 (talk) 11:19, 9 March 2010 (UTC) Leirus 212.163.172.180 (talk) 11:19, 9 March 2010 (UTC)

I also think that Galician should be used instead of Castillian. It is an official language, and to choose Castillian would be to undermine the cultural and legal importance of Galician in the region. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wq0msh (talkcontribs) 16:11, 11 September 2012 (UTC)

The flag[edit]

Has Santiago a flag? Im from Galicia and I didnt knew it. --213.60.88.213 (talk) 14:15, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

Surprise!. Seriously, most of the cities have one, but no one seems to know them. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.163.172.180 (talk) 08:57, 19 April 2010 (UTC)

The sea shell[edit]

Please explain the sea shell insignia. there is a photo of it but no information on it's relevancy as the symbol of the pilgrimage. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.92.14.172 (talk) 09:14, 8 February 2010 (UTC)

In the Christian faith the belief is that Jesus anointed the head of the fisherman James, with a shell he picks up from the shore of Galalee. The small scallop or pectin thus becomes the emblem of the followers of Christ. Europeans who wished to visit the Holy Land often also visited Santiago de Compostela, which was considered an important place of pilgrimage for Christians who often wore the shell like a badge. The scallop shell thus appears on the coats of arms of some families indicating that they have been "on the pilgrims trail". That's what I was told but I'm not a Christian or an expert and I could be in error so maybe a scholar can elaborate. In good faith. AMM — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.26.100.94 (talk) 21:30, 25 July 2013 (UTC)

Muslim discrimination?[edit]

"Christian persecution of Spain's Muslims, following the fall of the Moorish state in 1492, echoes into present time, with local residents evincing antipathy towards those who are visibly Muslim"

I do not know where this affirmation comes from, and without a cite, also... I think it should be removed.

Sister Cities[edit]

"the name of Santiago as a city in the Dominican Republic is questionable?" how can that be questionable is the 2nd largest city in the country and it got a heraldic coat of arms from the spanish crown in 1508 that stament is just ridiculous — Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.34.212.164 (talk) 05:55, 21 June 2011 (UTC)

212.163.172.180 (talk) 11:14, 9 March 2010 (UTC) Leirus 212.163.172.180 (talk) 11:14, 9 March 2010 (UTC)

Rotating Photos[edit]

I find the rotating series of photographs initially distracting and ultimately annoying. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.86.3.19 (talk) 22:45, 6 June 2013 (UTC)

Fully agree. Worse, there are no captions describing the frames. If I knew the city any better, I'd replace it with a gallery. Any takers? cmɢʟee୯ ͡° ̮د ͡° ੭ 11:25, 25 July 2013 (UTC)
Even a single frame is better than the gif versions. I've changed them. Oreo Priest talk 21:31, 25 July 2013 (UTC)

Two questions[edit]

In editing this article, I've run across two questions I have not been able to find that answer to either by looking through related WP pages or by searching Google Books: (1) Which Pope/s acknowledged Alfonso and Asturias? and, (2) When exactly did Compostela become capital of Galicia? Thanks, Aristophanes68 (talk) 02:33, 23 December 2013 (UTC)