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Is there any rational behind the moving of major Japanese cities such as this to {name}, {prefecture name}? It's not as if they're obscure and easily mistaken, and London, Berlin etc. seem to survive perfectly well on their own Ianb 16:26, 8 Feb 2004 (UTC)

Basically for the sake of consistency. We are about to add more towns and villages in the future, and many names of cities need to be suffixed with a prefecture name to avoid a confict. Please see Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject Japanese districts and municipalites for the ongoing discussion. Your input is welcome. -- Taku 17:09, Feb 9, 2004 (UTC)
なるほど. Thanks for the reply. Ianb 21:28, 9 Feb 2004 (UTC)

Vandalism?[edit]

At 16:19 on 9 Mar 2005 204.184.16.85 (talk · contributions) removed the following items from the list of ten wards, leaving eight wards.

I'm in the process of tracking and cleaning up vandalism performed by this user. I'll return the missing wards but would appreciate if someone could check them for me. I know nothing about this Japanese city except the beer. --Tony Sidaway|Talk 15:49, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Ah, it's okay, they were restored in a later edit. --Tony Sidaway|Talk 15:51, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Needs Disambiguation Page[edit]

Sapporo beer is often what people are looking for when they get this page. --Rakista 20:14, 11 August 2005 (UTC)

More![edit]

I'd really like to know a lot more about this city. It is my sister-city! Alphalife 01:19, 19 October 2005 (UTC)

I'm hoping to find the time to overhaul this page and make some significant additions in the next few weeks. It's where I live. Today I just added a mention of the World Cup and cleared up an ambiguity (Sapporo is the 5th biggest city by population, but not area). I think perhaps the Olympics, World Cup and other notable events will at some point need to be split off into a separate section instead of sitting in the introduction. Saiing 14:13, 6 March 2006

Re-write and additions[edit]

I've started re-writing the page beginning with a more in-depth Early History section. If anyone has any ideas about stuff which has not yet been covered but which you'd like to see, feel free to voice your opinion. Saiing 02:55, 8 March 2006 (UTC)

Hellow(こんにちは)[edit]

I'm a Japanese

Can you translate [put] this Japanese sentence into English?

I am very weak [poor] in English・・・

Atsubetsu-ku(厚別区)
Chuo-ku(中央区)
Higashi-ku(東区)
Kita-ku(北区)
Kiyota-ku(清田区)
Minami-ku(南区)
Nishi-ku(西区)
Shiroishi-ku(白石区)
Teine-ku(手稲区)
Toyohira-ku(豊平区)

Er... 'ward' is the English word for 区 and I guess the cardinal directions north (北), east (東), south (南) and west (西) are quite straightforward, as well as 'center' for 中央. 白石 is 'white stone'. I'd have to look up the rest in a dictionary, but... What point is there to translate the ward names in this article? -- Bakabaka 23:04, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

1972 population, during the Winter Olympics?[edit]

There's a claim in the Winter Olympic Games article that Turin and Vancouver were/will be the largest cities to host the games. This claim may be true, but I can't find 1972 population figures of Sapporo and the surrounding areas to support/refute it. For example, Vancouver has a population of approximately 550,000 people and its metro area (including several other similar-sized cities) is 1.9 million. Will this be the largest city to host the winter games? How would Sapporo and its surrounding area have compared in 1972? --Ds13 21:59, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

Researching my own question here (but please chime in if you can help)...
* 1970 population: "over 1 million" [1]
* 1983 population: 1,483,182 (same source as above)
The question remains: Should Vancouver be considered larger? Does anyone know what an equivalent surrounding area of Sapporo would include?
--Ds13 22:05, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

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I really think the sound byte needs to be embedded in the page instead of prompting to download an OGG file. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.173.105.4 (talk) 03:14, 20 July 2011 (UTC)

Shopping mall and Department store[edit]

I will remove some less notable or unsourced events from the list and put them here. Feelfree to discuss. I have rough criteria in mind, but typing them would be too long. The years are missing from the copied elements.

  • Marui Imai Departmentstore - Odori
  • Tokyu Departmentstore - Sapporo Station
  • Daimaru Departmentstore - Sapporo Station
  • Mitsukoshi Departmentsore - Odori
  • Ario Sapporo -Naeba
  • Aeon Shoppingmall Sapporo Motomachi
  • Aeon Shoppingmall Sapporo Hiraoka
  • Aeon Shoppingmall Sapporo Hassamu
  • Norbesa
  • Sapporo Factory
  • Susukino lafiler Shoppingmall
  • Iias Sapporo Shiroishi

— Preceding unsigned comment added by 219.23.5.48 (talk) 11:40, August 8, 2011 (UTC)

Etymology of the name Sapporo[edit]

According to Ann B. Irish's Hokkaido: A History of Ethnic Transition and Development on Japan's Northern Island (pg. 38), the word Sapporo probably came from the Ainu's name for the local river there, Sat Poro Pet (big dry river) or Sari Poro Pet (a reedy area by the river). In Ainu-itak kana it would be サㇳポロペㇳ and サリポロペㇳ respectively. I don't have the HTML skills to properly add this information, but I hope it can make its way into the article.

WW2 History error[edit]

"30 B-29 Superfortress bombers dropped 889 tons" doesn't compute. That works out to just less than 60,000 pound per plane when the aircraft is rated for 20,000 pounds and doesn't allow for a decreased bomb load given the range required to reach Sapporo from the bases in the Mariana Islands. I'd guess it should be 88.9 tons, which works out to 6,000 pounds per plane and would allow extra fuel for the distance. Another way to check would be to compute the volume of the bomb bays and the implied density required to contain the mass - again it doesn't compute.

68.74.75.35 (talk) 06:36, 9 August 2012 (UTC)