Talk:Sarah McLachlan

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discography[edit]

I expanded/updated discography and placed it into tables. As McLachlan is Canadian I really wanted to include Canada music chart peaks and I searched desperately for some kind of online archive of the Canadian charts to no avail. Anyone out there have that info? -- eo 17:18, 2 November 2005 (UTC)

You missed the new live album which I added. Feel free to add that chart data because I have no clue where to find that. -- TomeOne 21:17, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
What happened to the photos of the albums? I think the article looked a lot better with them. Hlwarrior 00:27, 4 June 2007 (UTC)
The Sarah Maclachlan Discograghy page should be merged with this page to minimize fragmentation of relevent material.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.166.28.176 (talk) 16:27, 29 March 2009 (UTC) 

Delerium[edit]

I would like more reference to Delerium, since that made many other young people fans. Suddently she where a star in the Dance scene --Zypres 00:15, 22 January 2006 (UTC)

I agree that a reference to the song Silence belongs in the text. I'm not sure I could do a great job myself, not knowing much of the background, but if no one else adds it soon, I'll take a stab at it. RayGates 03:36, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

I still think that the current reference to the success of silence is lacking. DJ Tiesto 's remix of this song was a worldwide success ("first house track ever broadcast on daytime radio in North America" and "eight weeks in the UK top ten chart" according to his biography on tiesto.com). Japsai (talk) 11:03, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

Whistle register?[edit]

The last couple edits and reverts have been over Sarah McLachlan's inclusion as a "whistle register" singer. Does Sarah even have that kind of range (she writes most of her stuff in the alto/second-soprano tessitura), and if she does, in what songs does she demonstrate it? --C-squared 04:26, 8 March 2006 (UTC)

  • "Fear", I'd guess, for one. Danny Lilithborne 04:32, 8 March 2006 (UTC)
    • In "Fear", Sarah does not go any higher than a B5 (on the "than" in "There's nothing I'd like better than to fall")—still no small feat, but not in the whistle register. The whistle register, when used, is a whole octave higher, plus some. If this is the only song we can come up with, Sarah should definitely be removed as an example of a whistle register singer. --C-squared 05:45, 9 March 2006 (UTC)
      • Well, I was as surprised as you. Try going to the talk page of whoever put it back. Danny Lilithborne 05:55, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

Picture[edit]

This isn't the kind of thing I usually comment on, but would it be possible for someone to find a new public domain image for this article? The one currently in place just looks terrible. Danny Lilithborne 06:54, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

Remarkably conveniently, User:Tezster has just uploaded a vastly superior new image. Jkelly 19:42, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

- I agree. Sarah is a very attractive woman! This image is the best we can do? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.197.71.189 (talkcontribs)

You should have seen the old picture. If you know of any fans who have taken photographs and would be willing to license their photography under a free, reusable license, you can encourage them to donate them. Jkelly 16:21, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

Genre[edit]

I am finding it difficult to Genre Sarah's music. Then again I am finding it difficult to categorize quite a bit of the 20 gigs of music I have. Anyone wanna give me a better genre than simply 'rock'?

Soft rock, singer-songwriter, folk-pop-rock. I agree, hard to categorize. -Larry Siegel

Her music really isn't at all 'rock'. It's folk music with her vocals bordering on country. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Reverend scurvy (talkcontribs) 15:16, 14 October 2011 (UTC)

Ethnicity[edit]

Is Sarah actually of Scottish background? Since she was adopted (I can't remember her birth mother's name) it's hard to base her ethnicity on her last name. Zenitram82 00:08, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

It should be removed until we have a reliable source to reference. Jkelly 00:27, 4 July 2006 (UTC)
I'm not sure, but I think she may be white (or have white ancestors). I could be wrong and don't mean to offend anyone, but it's how it appears from my untrained point-of-view. --92.229.232.41 (talk) 00:55, 6 January 2012 (UTC)

Her birth mother's name is Judy James. (http://www.thecanadianencyclopedia.com/index.cfm?PgNm=TCE&Params=U1ARTU0003998)

songcruft[edit]

  • Is it necessary to list every song Sarah McLachlan contributed to a soundtrack, collection album, benefit or live performance? I think all that stuff is clearly unnecessary, so I removed it. Danny Lilithborne 22:06, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
Good edit. Jkelly 22:57, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

I think that it would be awesome for hard core Sarah McLachlan fans to know every song this songstress has contributed too, either with her voice or with writing. Maybe we can create a complete discography page like almost every artist on this website has. Sarah has made different apperances on numerous CD's other than her own in which this site now does not show, such as Blue Rodeo's CD's where she is a back up singer on almost all songs and with Moev, whom she has contributed her voice as well. I am an avid Sarah McLachlan fan and would like to see if anyone else out there has some songs that maybe I dont know of. I know that others whom love her voice as much as I do, would like the same. This list does not have to be on her front page but rather have a link to another page. Brandon 08:21 a.m. August 3, 2006

Not every artist on Wikipedia has a "complete" discography. In fact, the vast majority have only their own list of proper albums; the only artists who have a "complete" WP discography of every last compilation, soundtrack album, tribute album, etc. that their music ever appeared on are, generally, those whose fan base largely consists of 15-year-olds who think it's encyclopedically notable if their favourite singer sneezes, and who pitch hissy fits every time somebody tries to weed out their pet trivia. (Yeah, Ashlee Simpson, I do mean your article.) Bearcat 09:32, 11 November 2006 (UTC)

Seeing as how we're talking about musicians, I think a complete list of their songs would be very appropriate. I can't understand why anyone wouldn't want it. If you make it so that Wikipedia is only a brief overview of things rather then the encyclopedia it's supposed to be it wouldn't be very good as a research site.

Harp[edit]

McLachlan plays the harp on her new record so I would appreciate it if you'd leave her in the Harpists category! Zenitram82 14:49, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

Such information needs to be cited. Please see WP:V, WP:CITE, and WP:RS. --Yamla 14:58, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

I referenced it on the "Wintersong" page because I wasn't sure where to put it on McLachlan's page. Zenitram82 19:03, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

As important as citations are, it's entirely sufficient for the information to be present in the album's article. We don't need to provide separate sources for it in the bio in addition to the album credits. Bearcat 09:26, 11 November 2006 (UTC)

Fumbling Towards Ecstasy - "Rolling Stone Magazine has listed it as one of the top 100 best albums of all-time"[edit]

Is this correct? Haven't been able to find it on any of these lists, yet. Maybe there's a RS top 100 list not included on that page?

http://www.rocklistmusic.co.uk/rstone.html

The Sarah McLachlan Foundation[edit]

No mention of the foundation on the page other than an external link? Perhaps it should be added to the Philanthropy section? Nhansen 20:02, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

Personal life[edit]

This is a very good article. The only thing missing I saw at first glance was that it doesn't have a personal life section, as many articles on celebrities do. Just a short section would round the article out, I think. Icemuon 11:32, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

According to NNDB.com She has been married to her drummer Ashwin Sood since February of 1997 and they have a daughter named India Ann Sushill that was born in 2002.

From: http://www.nndb.com/people/844/000086586/

Bag of marbels 28 18:58, 22 May 2007 (UTC)–

I have a question. Is she an aethiest? She's made anti-Bible comments before, calling it a "pack of lies" and so forth. I'm Catholic, and I found this greatly offensive, but it doesn't mention religion anywhere on the article. Does anyone know? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.247.244.120 (talk) 23:26, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

I'm almost positive that she isn't a Christian...however, that doesn't just mean she's an atheist. Personally, it shouldn't matter what faith she follows (if any). We don't need to get THAT personal.
And I'm sorry that you found her (un-sourced) comment offensive; I find certain rap songs to be offensive. We all have the right to express our opinions, regardless of how offensive they may be. --ThePURPLEpirate (talk) 00:27, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

Template[edit]

So I made the template for Sarah...it was my first time, so bear with me if it's bad. Maybe someone can add something to it, to make it better? I didn't know what else to put besides albums. template:Sarah McLachlan Hlwarrior 00:44, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

Umm...Sufacing?[edit]

This article only mentions her most successful project. Surely someone knows something. Echo5Joker 12:28, 23 August 2007 (CST)

I agree. I started with some basic info on the album, but it probably should be expanded some more. Hlwarrior 22:17, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

Discography[edit]

I'm thinking of breaking off the discog. sect., making that an article unto itself, and replacing it with a brief list of studio albums. I wanted some feedback first though. I think this would make the article a little neater and easier to read, any comments? Naufana : talk 06:19, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

I could see that as a good idea, and just including Touch, Solace, Fumbling Towards Ecstasy, Surfacing, Afterglow, and Wintersong. Most of the other albums are just live or remixes. Hlwarrior (talk) 04:00, 29 January 2008 (UTC)


Voice - Type[edit]

I`ve also read that she`s a soprano: http://www.r-go.ca/pages/sarah_mclachlan.htm http://www.mininova.org/tor/1400977

Dissolution of marriage[edit]

In Canada it is called a divorce. There is no mention in the Canadian Divorce Act of "dissolution of marriage". It is an awkward foreign phrase that obsfucates what happened in her personal life.

http://laws.justice.gc.ca/en/ShowFullDoc/cs/D-3.4///en?noCookie

I suggest an edit of the text McLachlan also admitted the song was inspired by the dissolution of her marriage to state it was a divorce. Or change it to include both so that Canadians and others can find this page when researching McLachlan's divorce. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.0.86.173 (talk) 14:50, 25 March 2009 (UTC)

At the time, they were separated, not divorced. She couldn't say the song was inspired by her divorce, because it hadn't happened yet. In any case I'm not sure how this page would be hard to find. Kaleja (talk) 03:55, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

Headline text[edit]

SPCA reference[edit]

There is a reference to her television endorsements for the ASPCA. She is also starring in essentially similar ones for the BCSPCA, same song (Answer) but different pictorials of animals and slightly different script. If the article mentions the first, the second should also be mentioned. I am a techno-idiot, so perhaps someone more savvy could amend the article. Grandma Roses (talk) 22:36, 1 August 2009 (UTC)

pronunciation of her surname[edit]

Somebody please put the correct pronunciation in the article. I am listening to an interview [1] where the guy pronounces it with an F sound ("mik-lof-lin"). That can't be right, can it? She doesn't correct him, but that might just be politeness. --Mathew5000 (talk) 10:51, 29 November 2009 (UTC)

Nah, it's a Scots surname so it should be "muk-loch-lun" with a slight throaty sound on the "loch". I think she pronounces it slightly softer though as "muk-lock-lun". But certainly no Fs. Planewalker Dave (talk) 11:10, 29 November 2009 (UTC)
Yeah, I've heard it pronounced on the radio by DJs as "muh-clak-lun" which doesn't seem right to me. DarrenW (talk) 13:01, 13 August 2010 (UTC)
Thanks. Hopefully someone who knows IPA can add the pronunciation to the article per Wikipedia:Manual of Style (pronunciation). --Mathew5000 (talk) 08:18, 30 November 2009 (UTC)

Unreferenced paragraph[edit]

I removed this paragraph from the article: It's possibly libel, but more importantly, it's unreferenced.

"For years, Sarah McLachlan's main stage guitar has been a late-1970s Larrivée C-10 with rosewood back and sides, a spruce top, and a Florentine cutaway. The guitar is amplified with a Fishman Rare Earth Blend (which combines a magnetic pickup and an internal mic), running through a Radial JDV Mk3 active DI. She has also performed with Canadian-made Morgan guitars, and has reported to be trying out Taylor models with Expression System electronics."

It would be nice to put this back up, but needs a published reference to confirm it. Minimac (talk) 10:14, 13 April 2010 (UTC)

Facial paralysis?[edit]

I just saw a tape of her performing, and noticed that when she smiles the right side of her mouth moves more than the left side. It's not bad - certainly not enough to detract from her appearance - but it is there if you look for it. Was she in an accident of some kind that left nerve damage? Guy Macon 23:07, 11 September 2010 (UTC)

Tuning?[edit]

Wondering if that's an error in the section on her guitars. The section mentions two guitar tunings that McLachlan uses, one of which is only slightly off from standard (E A D G A D). Is this a typo or does she really do this rather than standard tuning in those songs, anybody know? Snyrt (talk) 16:44, 2 March 2012 (UTC)

Really?[edit]

The lead-in photo is captioned "Sarah McLachlan after a performance at JFK Airport, July 2010" She's reduced to singing in airport terminals now? Presumably, she was photographed at JFK after performing somewhere in NYC area - probably doubtful that she went straight to the airport from the venue, so that may not really be accurate even. Maybe photo should just say she was at JFK in July 2010... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.51.66.32 (talk) 22:20, 19 January 2013 (UTC)

Her Religion??[edit]

She has been reported to regard herself as an agnostic/pantheist. [2][3][4] But why does not the article made a mention of it? I need we need it to be instated in the article. Any ideas? Faizan 13:50, 16 May 2014 (UTC)

Maybe because it is not important? She does not make a big deal about her religion. Why should we?Robert.Harker (talk) 19:13, 16 May 2014 (UTC)

That does not make it less important, though. All I want to be discussed that is there any reservation to her faith to be reported as Agnosticism/Pantheism? Faizan 07:41, 18 May 2014 (UTC)
An encyclopedia should have such details, anyway. Faizan 07:42, 18 May 2014 (UTC)

Are you planning on adding religious beliefs to all the wikipedia articles about musicians? Or just the ones you agree with / disagree with? Robert.Harker (talk) 17:40, 18 May 2014 (UTC)

No, I am rather busy. I have planned it only for this article, it would be a great favour if this basic info is added for all! Faizan 14:18, 28 May 2014 (UTC)

My comment was meant to be rhetorical. Please don't add her religious beliefs since I do not think she makes a big issue herself about her beliefs. Robert.Harker (talk) 01:42, 29 May 2014 (UTC)

I think third-party comments are needed. Started an RfC below. Faizan 06:11, 29 May 2014 (UTC)

RfC: Should her religion be mentioned?[edit]

Withdrawn by the poster. Faizan 06:19, 3 June 2014 (UTC)

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

She has been reported to regard herself as an agnostic/pantheist. [5][6][7] But why does not the article made a mention of it? An encyclopedia should have such details even if a singer does not make a big deal about his/her religion. Faizan 06:09, 29 May 2014 (UTC)

  • Exclude based on the three sources given above, which look poor. If there are other, more reliable, sources then bring them forward and I'll reconsider. Balaenoptera musculus (talk) 10:34, 29 May 2014 (UTC)
Why exclude? It is not yet included in the text/infobox. Faizan 12:17, 2 June 2014 (UTC)
  • Comment - Unless her religion bears some kind of significance on her career and has been reported on in WP:RS then it doesn't belong in the body of the article. If there are WP:RS that report it and it is not had some kind of significance on her career, then it could go in the infobox. ReformedArsenal (talk) 15:09, 31 May 2014 (UTC)
  • For a person's religion (or lack thereof) to be worth mentioning in their BLP article, it must not only be confirmed by a reliable source, but also be relevant on the grounds that it is either A) their reason for notability or a part of it, B) important to their public presence e.g. in social activism, or C) an integral part of their career, e.g. a Christian rock band as opposed to a rock band that happens to have Christian members. I may have left out a reason but in any case it does not appear that Sarah McLachlan's religious beliefs are important to her public persona or to her professional work. Muffinator (talk) 01:23, 3 June 2014 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.