Talk:Saraiki dialect

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Joke of the day[edit]

Personal commentary by an IP that Punjabi is a saraiki word. see below

"Recently Saraiki has been standardized as language (with the current name) comprising Multani and its related dialects contrasting the view of being a dialect of Punjabi. However this standardization is controversial to date because the word Punjabi comes from the Saraiki or Multani grammar using Persian vocabulary of Punj (five) and aab (water). Aab is not used in the dialects now included in Punjabi itself. Although the name Saraiki is new, but the language is not." — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mutunt (talkcontribs) 13:22, 1 December 2013 (UTC)


Indeed it is joke that Siraiki is dialect of Punjabi language — Preceding unsigned comment added by 182.189.178.147 (talk) 15:47, 29 March 2014 (UTC)

Removing the chronically unreferenced[edit]

I've just now removed the following:

  • The first national census of Pakistan to gather data on the prevalence of Saraiki was the census of 1981.{{Citation needed|date=August 2008}}
  • [[Romani language|Romani]] and Saraiki share some words and similar grammatical systems. The cause of the Romani [[diaspora]] is unknown. However, the most probable conclusion is that the Romanies were part of the military in [[North India|Northern India]]. When there were repeated raids by [[Mahmud of Ghazni]] and these soldiers were defeated, they were moved west with their families into the [[Byzantine Empire]]. This would have occurred between AD 1000 and 1030.{{citation needed|date=February 2012}}
  • In the process of creating a distinct Saraiki written standard, activists have paid attention to creating a standard script and orthographic norms. Orthographic and linguistic standardization of Saraiki seems more connected with the politics of identity. Although Saraiki shares four implosive sounds with Sindhi, care was taken so that the Saraiki script and the representation of these symbols should be different from that of Sindhi so that the Sindhis should not lay any claims over [[Saraiki literature]] as theirs.{{Citation needed|date=December 2009}}

IFF any of these can be reliably referenced, feel free to reinsert it. -- Hoary (talk) 14:04, 7 March 2014 (UTC) deleted the first of these -- Hoary (talk) 14:32, 7 March 2014 (UTC)

Javaid, Umbreen (2004). "Saraiki political movement: its impact in south Punjab". Journal of Research (Humanities) (Lahore: Department of English Language & Literature, University of the Punjab) 40 (2): 45–55.  p. 46 for the 1981 claim — Lfdder (talk) 14:09, 7 March 2014 (UTC)
Excellent; thank you. -- Hoary (talk) 14:32, 7 March 2014 (UTC)

Saraiki is independent language[edit]

Siraiki is an independent language .It is not dialect of Punjabi.It is shameful article for Siraiki people — Preceding unsigned comment added by 182.189.178.147 (talk) 15:39, 29 March 2014 (UTC) The article on Saraiki language must be added in this wiki as saraiki is a language. see www.britannica.com

182.186.74.87 (talk) 10:21, 16 May 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 11 January 2015[edit]

Saraiki is a language. Saraiki in not only dialect but also is an language. So page on Saraiki language be approved and saraiki dialect be deleted. 182.186.35.156 (talk) 13:43, 11 January 2015 (UTC)

Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: This was discussed at some length - see above, and consensus is that Saraiki is one of the Punjabi dialects, not a language in its own right. - Arjayay (talk) 13:53, 11 January 2015 (UTC)
No Saraiki is a language.
http://www.dawn.com/news/1139070182.186.88.197 (talk) 15:57, 21 January 2015 (UTC)