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I agree with the merge with Parvati, as the most common name. A new article on Parvati should have sections explaining the different names; including Sati, Uma, Gauri, Parvati. Imc 10:11, 22 October 2005 (UTC)

Good idea, unfortunately there are many hinduism pages on wikipedia that should only be one. Before there was Shiva and Mahadeva, and there are many more to still be merged. DaGizza Chat (c) 10:42, 22 October 2005 (UTC)
I don't think this should be merged. they are not different names for the same person. They are names for different forms of the same person. Both have different stories and completely different articles can be written about them. It will be bit like merging Rama and Krishna because they are different forms of Vishnu. Makes no sense. -- Ravikiran 08:13, 3 November 2005 (UTC)
True, in a sense they are all different aspects. But it has to be pointed out that they are different representations of the one Goddess in the article, the whole structure of all of these articles will then need to be almost entirely rewritten, with not too much repitition across Kali, Parvati, Dakshayani, Devi and Shakti. DaGizza Chat (c) 08:53, 9 November 2005 (UTC)
All the articles are in a mess anyway :) and it will not be too much of an overhead to rewrite them. If we can agree that the focus of this article should be on the Sati Dakhsayani story from her birth to immolation and that the focus of the Parvati story ought to be on her life as daughter of Parvata, we have enough material for two articles. There are many ways to link them and mention them as the same person without putting everything into one article. --Ravikiran 14:16, 9 November 2005 (UTC)
Well in a sense, all of the Hindu goddesses are aspects of Devi, the mother goddess. That has to done said. Then Parvati and Shakti have many aspects of themselves and have existed under many names, which also has to be mentioned. Something similar could be done to this like the avatars of Vishnu. A small paragraph can be put near the top of the page, which points out that they are part of the same original Goddess, while most of the rest of the article talks about what that aspect did. We can also make new Category such as "Aspects of Parvati" and template for each aspect etc... DaGizza Chat (c) 20:19, 9 November 2005 (UTC)
There can't be as many articles as there are demons, sages and gods, so you must concentrate on the most prominent. You could spin off stubs for the lesser lights. Consolidatation would be mistaken due to the rightness of ramification.


Clarification[edit]

I realise that the two wives of Shiva were actually two birth (incarnations) on earth of the same goddess Uma. The first wife renounced her material self in order to be born "the daughter of a father who she could respect"; was thus reborn; and wed the same lord Shiva again. I have made specific mention of all this in the article.

However, when I first created the "Dakshayani" page on 16/July/05, I designed it specifically to deal with the many legend and devotions regarding the FIRST wife of Shiva. This was a daughter of Daksha, hence I chose the well-known name "Dakshayani" as the title. The several names of Dakshayani (including "Sati", "Gowri" and "Lalitha") are also routinely applied to Parvati, second wife of Shiva and a daughter of Himavan. However, the cluster of legends associated with Parvati had best be kept on the "Parvati" page while this page is devoted to Dakshayani. This is best; please keep it so. ImpuMozhi 00:09, 7 December 2005 (UTC)


The name 'Gauri'[edit]

The article currently says She was named Gowri, the turmeric-hued one, since she was of the fair, golden complexion of auspicious turmeric. I know that the name Gauri is sometimes said to mean 'golden', but thought that it more often derived from the wild cow / buffalo (the female of Gaur)? 'Gauri the beautiful' is a reference to this animal. Imc 18:16, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

I've removed the statement about turmeric-hued since there is no reference, and the Puranic Encyclopaedia says that Brahma changed her colour from black to that of 'lotus petal', without saying what that colour is. I've changed Gowri to Gauri, as the standard transliteration. Imc 20:07, 16 June 2006 (UTC)
I have added the statement back, and have provided a reference for the meaning of the name. Hope this helps. Regards, ImpuMozhi 05:05, 18 June 2006 (UTC)
The meaning given at http://baby-names.adoption.com/search/Gauri.html is yellow, not turmeric coloured. Nevertheless, I have left 'turmeric hued' there for the present. Other web references say it means golden. While I'm still going by my memory with this, I still think there is an origin for this name with the cow, and of course, the gaur is the wild buffalo of south Asia. Imc 07:07, 18 June 2006 (UTC)
It is a great kindness, even if only "for the present". If you want to argue that 'turmeric coloured' is different from 'yellow coloured', you clearly have more free time on your hands than you know what to do with. Circumstances are less happy for others here; you can do just as you please "in future" with no intervention from me. ImpuMozhi 15:13, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

Putting unreferenced material on talk page.[edit]

Contradictions[edit]

In 36th Sarga of Balakanda of Valmiki Ramayana, it is mentioned that Parvati married Eswara and Kumara Swamy was born of Eswara. Now in Shivapurana and perhaps other puranas and also in Ramacharithamanas, it is described that Sati accosts Rama while he was searching for Sita after she was abducted by Ravana in Aranya Kanda. Simply speaking, Parvati was the reincarnation of Sati. Once there is the story of Parvati in Bala Kanda, Sati should have been long dead before Balakanda. How she surfaces again in Aranya Kanda is very puzzling. It may perhaps mean that these puranas cannot be taken at face value.

Also, what has the "teleserial" line to do with a serious mythological entry? I'm surprised that the Wikipedia moderation, so precise and at times grim even on accurate statements, had nothing to object to such questionable an addition instead, and let it through (besides, without even a precise reference to which installment -if any...- of this "teleserial"). This type of elements ought to be placed in the "See Also" section, instead than suddenly intruding and tampering with the flux of a professional entry. Smacks us in the face like the addon of a teenager :) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.34.137.9 (talk) 18:18, 13 May 2012 (UTC)

Move[edit]

DakshayaniSati (goddess) – Two reasons:

  • Dakshayani meaning "daughter of Daksha" is used as an epithet for any daughter of Daksha, not exclusively Sati. [1][2][3]: as an epithet of Aditi here.
  • WP:COMMONNAME: Dakshayani 622 + 587 + 640 (coupled with Shiva/Siva to eliminate other Dakshayanis) v/s 108, 000 + 31, 100 (coupled with Shiva/Siva to eliminate Sati practice - which also gains the name from the goddess).Redtigerxyz Talk 17:25, 19 December 2011 (UTC)

Hi everyone,
I would like to share a small correction to this. The translation of Dakshayani does not means Daksha's daughter, it means the lady who follows Daksha's footsteps-Daksha+Ayana (A similar usage is Ramayana- Rama+Ayana means The ayana of Rama i.e. the life of Rama - A possible tranlation). Sati was Daksha's most favorite daughter. She accompanied Daksha every where and earned the alias name Dakshayani. Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ram K Bhattatirippad (talkcontribs) 12:40, 2 August 2013 (UTC)

Spiritual meaning of the myth of Sati[edit]

The father of Sati performed a yagna, a fire ceremony, but he did not invite Shiva, the husband of his daughter. Sati then immolated herself afterward Shiva came, he decapited her father and replaced his head by one of a goat. The father of Sati is the ego which reject the soul, here Shiva. As a result, the truth, represented by Sati whom root is sat- meaning truth, the dharma are burned, destroyed. But the soul (Shiva) always destroy the ego in the end and Shiva replace his head by one of a goat because the goat is linked to the ritual sacrifice in India.86.198.12.189 (talk) 13:44, 28 December 2012 (UTC)

Please discuss the redirection of the page Gowri to this page[edit]

Hi everyone,
There is a redirection of Gowri to Sati (goddess) even though philosophically they are worshiped as mother Goddess. Both are supposed to be different characters. Sati devi is the child of Daksha and Gowri means- the fair lady, an adjective or alias name given to Shri Parvati, the daughter of King Himavana. There are other alias name given to Shri Parvati like Aparna(the lady who did not have any sustenance, the name she earned when she left palace in penance of Shiva). Similarly Sati Devi also have alias name Dakshayani (follower of Dakshas path, the name she earned as she always accompanied Daksha Prajapati, being his favorite daughter). So please discuss whether you prefer to redirect Gowri to Parvati or keep it to Sati (goddess).
Thanks Ram — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ram K Bhattatirippad (talkcontribs) 12:41, 2 August 2013 (UTC)