Talk:Scholarship

Rework of Article Discussion

I have reviewed this work, and would like to begin the discussion on a rework of the article. I would like to hear anyones thoughts on this matter prior to my editing or overhauling. I will wait 7 days for discussion before making any edits. please discussIlliniGradResearch (talk) 15:05, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

2001 Discussion

Thesis: serious scholarship produces something of value which those who have not engaged in it in some cases cannot properly appreciate. Their failure to appreciate it is what makes so many CrankS.

Why should we care about idiosyncratic views of someone from the outside looking in? Usually, no matter how intelligent and wide-ranging one's experience, if one has not done serious study of the subject, one is bound to sound like a crank, and one will simply annoy and turn away serious students of the subject and those who value serious scholarship. And by "serious scholarship" that I do not mean university study--university study is only one, certainly not infallible, way to engage in serious study.

What, then, does serious study of a subject require? It requires, first, acknowledging that you don't know very much about the subject. Second, it requires reading many books and (for academic and most professional disciplines) journal articles, until one is familiar with the leading theories, concepts, jargon, people, and historical trends that are recognized by experts in the field.

Serious study of a subject does not--emphatically not--require that one buy into any particular current theories.

-- Larry Sanger 22:01, 6 February 2001

Of course SeriousScholarship is important. But equally important is to avoid AcademicElitism.

--Jimbo Wales 22:37, 6 February 2001

I agree with that. LS ---- 22:48, 6 February 2001

And what about a discipline like Pure Mathematics? To begin with people with a serious interest in Mathematics DO NOT READ Mathematics books.

And then there is Language study - Again this is hardly a question of READING books.

I don't find this description of scholarship very comprehensive...I believe that each discipline has its own requirements for scholarship and expertise. RoseParks

External links policy

This page seems to attract more than a few external links, since ennumerable scholarships exist. I propose limiting the links to (free) scholarship information and (free) scholarship searching tools, and among those, limiting it to a few of the best. I am going to go ahead and remove a link to help a student since it seems at present to be a single scholarship. Thoughts? --Hansnesse 01:22, 15 January 2006 (UTC)

External link

The link http://www.earnscholarships.com was posted to the article. It does not seem like a comprehensive resource (and in my browser, it appears poorly formatted), and I removed it. Since it is back, I have moved it here for further discussion. Thoughts? --TeaDrinker 08:33, 23 March 2006 (UTC)

Scholarship Portal

I always want to create a sort of... "wikipedia scholarship portal" which contains a list of scholarship providers etc and categorized it by ... let say... geographic area, nature, etc.

Too bad... I do not know how to do it

AdityaLesmana 02:12, 26 April 2006

Wikipedia is really not a directory of web resources. You might have better luck starting a different wiki with that goal, or maybe suggest it over at Wikicities. --TeaDrinker 01:26, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

What about a wikibook on the subject? It would focus on the history of scholarships, how they are organized, how to get them and also a directory of web sources. Also, are there not enough articles on scholarships to warrent a portal to organize them? I'm not suggesting an organization of every scholarship, but just those wich warrent an encyclopedia article and are culturally significant. Tmchk | Talk 10:17, 5 August 2007 (UTC)

Types?

The three types listed currently are merit-based, need-based, and ethnicity-based. Maybe this should be expanded or looked at a bit differently. For instance the America's Junior Miss scholarship is for females only, so where does it fit in? Maybe ethnicity could be expanded to include genetic qualifiers (race, sex, etc.) and another category could be added for others such as scholarships that require having worked at a particular place?

--Gordaen 16:57, 8 November 2006

Scholarship issue

Can y'all take a look at College Scholarship Penalty? Can this information be sourced? Merged? ChildofMidnight (talk) 03:27, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

USA oriented

This article is focused only on scholarships within the USA, although it admits that some minority based scholarships may be available outside of it. The types section appears to be the worst - indicating that merit based scholarships are only granted as a result of American tests, and that only US institutions and companies offer other types of scholarships. --92.27.207.93 (talk) 21:36, 23 July 2010 (UTC)

USA orientated... if you're going to point out the American-centricism of this article, you might want to avoid using American-English: "oriented" is the American spelling of "orientated"; "focussed" is how "focused" is spelt (not "spelled") correctly in Britain.

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Merge with Bursary

Merging this with bursary might eliminate some of these issues. Chamberlian (talk) 18:48, 25 February 2012 (UTC)

Responses to a Scholarship Offer

Our oldest son is currently applying to universities. This week, he received his first "academic, merit-based" scholarship OFFER. I emphasize the word offer because the form that he must sign and return includes two choices:

• "I accept this award"
• "I decline this award"

We can't imagine why anyone would decline a merit-based scholarship, so we came to this Wikipedia page, looking for information on "responses to a scholarship offer". As expected (unfortunately), the article does not include such information.

I'm "old school". From my perspective, there's only one proper response to a scholarship offer--"Thanks". However, the world seems to have developed into a place where everything is negotiable. Our son's first scholarship offer is a "partial fee remission". Maybe we could decline the award as a step in the negotiation process because we, of course, would prefer a full fee remission. That behavior seems inappropriate and ungrateful to me, though.

In conclusion, I am requesting addition of a new section to this article on the topic "Responses to a Scholarship Offer".

ProResearcher (talk) 01:58, 11 December 2010 (UTC)

This section is very informative, but I believe additions to the athletic scholarship portion should be expanded.(SmoothGenau (talk) 02:17, 10 February 2012 (UTC))