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[edit] Scientology Terminology
Common Scientology terms include:
- theta (Θ) – Atman in contrast to the dynamics. Compare also to the physics terms of a static (point of rest) and Dynamic (element in action or motion or change)
- SP (Suppressive Person) – A person whose means of advance is through the opposition or suppression of others. The definition is asserted to include anyone who actively opposes Scientology.
- PTS (Potential Trouble Source) – a person who is under the influence of an SP and so may become a source of trouble to those around them. E.g. "Wanda is PTS to Jim" means that because she is in contact with Jim (a bad influence), Wanda is having trouble in her life that may spill over to threaten others.
- reality – The common reality around us, also the group agreement of what is true. As seen in the sentence "My sense of reality is that birds fly and fish swim"
- (reactive) bank – the sum of experiences (such as engrams, etc) whose main common component is pain and unconsciousness that influence a Thetan's thinking and behavior
- Clear (noun) – (after the clear key on adding machines) a person whose reactive bank does not insert erroneous data into one's analytical thinking. Usually refers a person who is clear with regard to survival for Self.
- clear (verb) – To clarify one's understanding with regard to a particular concept or term or symbol, leading to conceptual understanding of the same. This permits the person to rephrase the term or concept in words other than the original, without loss of the clarity when communicating with someone not educated in the subject.
- Fair Game – A status formerly assigned to those whom the Church of Scientology officially declared to be SP. An October 1967 policy stated that anyone who had been declared "fair game" "may be deprived of property or injured by any means by any Scientologist without any discipline of the Scientologist and may be tricked, sued or lied to or destroyed."[1] This was changed to a milder wording in July 1968.[2] The term "fair game" was abandoned altogether by the Church in October 1968.[3] However, the Church has retained an aggressive policy towards those it perceives as its enemies,[4] and argued – unsuccessfully – as late as 1985 that retributive action against "enemies of Scientology" should be considered a Constitutionally-protected "core practice" of Scientology.[5]
- psychiatrist – the Scientology definition of a "psychiatrist" was officially declared by Hubbard to be "an anti-social enemy of the people" [1].
References:
- ^ HCOPL 18 October 67 Issue IV, Penalties for Lower Conditions
- ^ Enquiry into the Practice and Effects of Scientology; Report by Sir John Foster, K.B.E., Q.C., M.P. Published by Her Majesty's Stationery Office, London, December 1971, Chapter 7 (also referred to as the Foster Report)
- ^ HCOPL 21 October 68, Cancellation of Fair Game
- ^ J. Gordon Melton, The Church of Scientology, Signature Books, 2000, p. 36
- ^ http://www.lermanet2.com/reference/wollersheim.htm (courtesy link) Wollersheim v. Church of Scientology of California, Court of Appeal of the State of California, civ.no.B023193, 18 July 1989
[edit] Scientology's Beliefs In God
This article should include what Scientology's beliefs in God are.--174.95.66.253 (talk) 17:47, 25 May 2010 (UTC)
- That is a though one, as Scientology does not have an specific view on God himself. The only references to a deity I have found within Scientology texts is a line on Science of Survival which states something similar to "God most likely created the physical universe", and mentions on the 8th Dynamic, which is only named "Infinity" or "The Supreme Being". And the only doctrine mentioned is that one has to reach fullness on all the other 7 dynamics (oneself, family, social circles, humanity, all living beings, the physical universe and the spirit) to be able to reach God (the 8th dynamic). > RUL3R>trolling>vandalism 06:34, 31 May 2010 (UTC)
- Ok, just read through Scientology - Fundamentals of Thought. I don't recall the exact page, but there is a quote that states that "Scientology does not go deep into the 8th dynamic." So, there you go, no official stance; no specific Scientology doctrine on God. Nothing to write about the subject here. > RUL3R>trolling>vandalism 10:35, 9 June 2010 (UTC)
- L. Ron Hubbard said that, "There was no Christ!", and that the Roman Catholic Church simply picked up fragments of the "R6 Implant" from the Xenu cosmogony. -- Cirt (talk) 14:30, 9 June 2010 (UTC)
- Yahweh is not the only god out there. Even if Hubbard had denied Jesus Christ, that doesn't mean he, and therefore Scientology, denied the existence of a god. A deity is mentioned in Scientology, it just not the same god every other religion out there worships. And I believe this discussion should end here since we are bordering on WP:FORUM. > RUL3R>trolling>vandalism 07:05, 10 June 2010 (UTC)
- It is not "forum" to discuss possible material to include in an article. Especially not so, as multiple WP:RS/WP:V secondary sources have commented on this controversial issue. -- Cirt (talk) 18:20, 10 June 2010 (UTC)
- Yet, it is all covered on Jesus in Scientology. In any case, Jesus is NOT a Scientology belief, so it has no relationship with this article's topic. > RUL3R>trolling>vandalism 05:59, 11 June 2010 (UTC)
- There is a mention of "humans being gods in human form" in the intro to the Scientology article itself, why is that not mentioned here? I would think that that was its belief in God if nothing else.LutherVinci (talk) 00:33, 2 March 2012 (UTC)
- Yet, it is all covered on Jesus in Scientology. In any case, Jesus is NOT a Scientology belief, so it has no relationship with this article's topic. > RUL3R>trolling>vandalism 05:59, 11 June 2010 (UTC)
- It is not "forum" to discuss possible material to include in an article. Especially not so, as multiple WP:RS/WP:V secondary sources have commented on this controversial issue. -- Cirt (talk) 18:20, 10 June 2010 (UTC)
- Yahweh is not the only god out there. Even if Hubbard had denied Jesus Christ, that doesn't mean he, and therefore Scientology, denied the existence of a god. A deity is mentioned in Scientology, it just not the same god every other religion out there worships. And I believe this discussion should end here since we are bordering on WP:FORUM. > RUL3R>trolling>vandalism 07:05, 10 June 2010 (UTC)
- L. Ron Hubbard said that, "There was no Christ!", and that the Roman Catholic Church simply picked up fragments of the "R6 Implant" from the Xenu cosmogony. -- Cirt (talk) 14:30, 9 June 2010 (UTC)
Scientology, and its holy book, dianetics, was an attempt by its author, L. Ron Hubbard, at world domination. Not a bad approach, considering how well it worked for ancient europe
- cough* catholicism *cough* but what is impressing is how the cult survived his death
for so damn long. He must've been very good at brainwashing his followers for that to happen. Therefore, his life and his following should be taken as a lesson in the dark arts, not as a religion to be taken seriously. Although, it's not like they're much of a threat today. Now they just use brainwashing tactics to trick people into handing them more money. Hmmmm... Sounds like a good idea... Muhahaha!!!!
You have no idea how right you are ----->[2] LutherVinci (talk) 00:33, 2 March 2012 (UTC)