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Older comments[edit]

Does friction actually cause the cutting, or is it the act of shearing the material to be cut? If there were a frictionless material to make blades of, I surmise they could be solid blocks , be perfectly pressed together, and cut more effectively than any friction-full scissors.no it does

Friction question:- This depends on how the scissors are constructed. Cold forged 'stamped' scissors (usually mass produced and relatively cheap) often rely on the shearing action alone between the two blades - however they are not always successful in this and can simply wrap around the material being cut. Good quality hot-forged scissors are 'sprung' - the blades are under tension and only meet at the cutting point as the scissors are closed together, giving optimal cutting friction. It is often possible to see daylight between the closed blades of a good quality pair of scissors due to this spring tension. Further, good quality scissor blades are often extremely slightly 'twisted' (like a propellor blade) to aid this tension, and thus increase the friction for the cutting action. Real 'left handed' scissors are made mirror image for this exact purpose (along with comfort and eye-line reasons) - otherwise the fingers tend to push, and the thumb tends to pull, the blades apart laterally - not giving an ideal cutting action. --Nick (talk) 15:49, 13 November 2010 (UTC)

Well, now to the article:Scissors. Under the heading History a casual editor Markusbo123 has 18 April 2006 omitted some historical facts, which can be found in the link [6] page 6, "Finlands annexion to the Swedish realm in the 1100s..."; page 10, "The Founder of FISKARS Ironworks Peter Thorwöste arrived from Holland, obtained in 1649 the concession (of Christina, the Queen of Sweden); page 22, the Cutlery Works started by a new owner in 1830, when Finland was "an autonomous Grand Duchy of the Russian Empire"; page 33, in 1917 Finland issued its Declaration of Independence; in 1967 FISKARS introduced new methods in the manufacturing of scissors; page 39, in 1977 FISKARS built a scissors plant in the U.S.A. (Wausau, Wisconsin). Some details may be reverted to the History as in 14 April. Comet27 17:47, 20 April 2006 (UTC)

New comments see User talk:Comet27. Comet27 20:55, 7 May 2006 (UTC)

It has been suggested that the article Shears be merged into Scissors (see history of Scissors 03:28, 4 March 2007).
First - observe that in the article Shears we have a picture of a pair of Fiskars shears, which is exactly the same tool and of the same size as in the last picture in the article Scissors.
Click on these pictures - you get the enlarged pictures in Wikimedia Commons - and you can see the same name FISKARS on the scissors' blades, on both of them.
The picture "A small pair of shears" has been taken with a digicamera very near the plastic handles - therefore a distorted perspective shows enlarged handles compared to the blades.
Conclusion: when the article Shears is ready to be merged into the article Scissors, the picture "A small pair of shears" should not be merged. I assume that an administrator will do the merger, if it shall be done. I have not experience for that.Comet27 10:30, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

Shears[edit]

Shears, as I was taught, not only are bigger, but the term describes the handles as well. Shears have a bigger slot for four fingers and a thumb. Scissors have equal size holes.

Shears question:- The mysteries of the difference between 'scissors' and 'shears' appear to be somewhat lost in history. I have come across many different versions and accounts. In UK manufacture we tend to class anything over 8 inches as 'shears', although the handles (or 'bows') reasoning sometimes comes into use below that. However, garden shears would have identical handles (without bows) and would not be called scissors. Similarly there are many scissors with 'offset' (differing in length and often shape) bows that are smaller than 6 inches, but would not be called 'shears'.

Even sizing scissors and shears is somewhat difficult or obscure - one ruling is that the length of a pair of scissors is measured from the tip of the points to the far end of the shortest handle or bow. This does not always fit well with the general buying public, who expect it to be the total length of the complete item. --Nick (talk) 15:50, 13 November 2010 (UTC)

I was taught in sewing class that the difference between shears and scissors is that the blades on scissors are equal whereas shears are configured to make it easier for cutting large areas of cloth so that the bottom or blade that crosses to the right doesn't go out very far like the right blade does and goes under the material in order to shear the cloth. The first picture in the article is of shears. This is actually an important distinction. Krobinson95 (talk) 11:49, 12 October 2011 (UTC)krobinson95

Un-pluralized Use[edit]

I noticed some people use the word "scissor", when they should use the word "scissors". example: "could you pass me the scissor?". Could that be a regional thing? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Everydayrockstar (talkcontribs) 21:56, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

An easy way to correct them is to take out the bolt, and pass them a single one of the two blades. :-) --190.74.108.43 16:54, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

I'd agree. Lighted Match 00:11, 23 October 2007 (UTC)

Da Vinci invented scissors?[edit]

It is commonly stated and believed that Leonardo Da Vinci invented scissors. Does anyone know the origin of this? If so, it should either be addressed or debunked in the article. EAP 14:41, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, they write a thousand places about it. I found in the Wikianswers (without a proper source) that Da Vinci developed the scissors to the modern two-pieces form. But up until we don't have a good source, I suggest just leave out Leonardo from the article. 81.183.122.78 (talk) (DJS, hu.wikipedia.org) —Preceding undated comment was added at 18:53, 12 October 2008 (UTC).

Poultry shears redirect[edit]

Shouldn't Poultry shears link to a blank page, instead of redirecting back to the page it is supposed to be coming from? ataricom (talk) 21:33, 23 December 2007 (UTC)

Poultry shears question:- Poultry shears are simply another type of specialist scissors or shears, and as such I don't believe they warrant a new page. I know of at least 100 different types of specialist scissors and shears but I wouldn't like to write the separate pages for each! --Nick (talk) 15:50, 13 November 2010 (UTC)

Are Finger/Toe Nail Clippers a type of Scissors??[edit]

Based on the definition of scissors, "a pair of metal blades pivoted so that the sharpened edges slide against each other", I don't think finger/toenail clippers fit into this category, because the blades don't slide against each other; they meet edge to edge, almost in an anvil situation. Besides, they have their own page: Nail clipper.

WesT (talk) 18:15, 6 September 2011 (UTC)

Never mind. A new day, a new brain. They are referring to nail SCISSORS, not nail clippers. I've seen some rather small nail scissors, usually used to cut fingernails on babies, but it would have been easier to understand if there had been a picture to avoid confusion.
If anyone can find such a picture, please add it near that paragraph.
Thanks! WesT (talk) 15:55, 7 September 2011 (UTC)
A picture similar to this would work: File:Baby nail scissors.jpg
WesT (talk) 16:13, 7 September 2011 (UTC)

Special scissors[edit]

In this section it reads shears to make wool, ought it be shares to harvest wool? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.21.130.193 (talk) 00:39, 2 November 2011 (UTC)


Scissors spelling[edit]

Sissors was a spelling Scissors became the accepted version when it went in as a dictionary entry. Well worth looking up.86.44.79.87 (talk) 14:19, 5 November 2011 (UTC)

Contradiction in the History Section[edit]

The history section opens with these two mutually exclusive sentences:

"It is most likely that scissors were invented around 1500 BC in ancient Egypt.[1] The earliest known scissors appeared in Mesopotamia 3,000 to 4,000 years ago."

Can someone clarify which is so?TheCormac (talk) 02:22, 19 January 2013 (UTC)

Scissor Size[edit]

It should be mentioned, perhaps, how are scissors measured. When you buy scissors of a particular size, what does the size mean? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.118.30.224 (talk) 12:34, 18 June 2013 (UTC)

Issues in lede[edit]

They consist of a pair of metal blades pivoted...

So what about the form of scissors with a spring at the opposite end and where pushing the handles together pushes the blades together (such as the 2nd century Asian pair pictured). There is no pivot at all there. This is the initial definition so it must fit all scissors.

...when the handles (bows) opposite to the pivot are closed

So, that's the other end than the thing that's in the middle?

Scissors can also be used to cut hair. Hair-cutting scissors have a specific blade angle ideal for cutting hair. Using the incorrect scissors to cut hair will result in increased damage and or split ends by breaking the hair.

If this level of detail really appropriate for the lede? It would surely be better moved to the specialized scissors section.

Modern scissors are normally designed ergonomically with composite thermoplastic and rubber handles which enable the user to exert either a power grip or a precision grip.

Source for this? It's a reasonably common configuration but I'd want a source to assert that it is the configuration used by the majority of scissors, yet alone that scissors with e.g. solid metal or single plastic handles are in some sense unusual which would be the true threshold for a "normally" assertion. MonumentallyIncompetent (talk) 21:24, 27 October 2014 (UTC)