Talk:Scouts New Zealand

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Resolved

--Matilda ^talk 04:26, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

Issues

Name

Is the name Scouting New Zealand? The website http://www.scouts.org.nz shows it as Scouts New Zealand.

Logo

Is File:Scouting New Zealand.svg the current logo? it does not appear on the website.

Sea Scouts

Sea Scouts New Zealand needs to be renamed to either Sea Scouts (Scouting New Zealand) or Sea Scouts (Scouts New Zealand).

---— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk 17:03, 9 November 2009 (UTC)

• Name: It seems so, but they in fact consistently call themselves "SCOUTS New Zealand".
• Sea Scouts New Zealand: Agree. It also wants a clean up and the removal of the list of Groups.

--Bduke (Discussion) 22:15, 9 November 2009 (UTC)

According to the Charities Commission, they are registered as The Scout Association of New Zealand.[1] ---— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk 22:56, 9 November 2009 (UTC)

Should we move it to The Scout Association of New Zealand and start the article with something like - The Scout Association of New Zealand, commonly known as SCOUTS New Zealand?

We need to determine the correct name they operate under. For example, The Guide Association operates as Girlguiding UK. Everything on the web shows Scouts New Zealand. ---— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk 02:32, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

We need to resolve this. The article should be moved to The Scout Association of New Zealand or Scouts New Zealand or even SCOUTS New Zealand as the web site always uses capitals. --Bduke (Discussion) 08:30, 30 July 2010 (UTC)

The current name is clearly not the best. I suggest making it like The Guide Association, use the common name as the article title and explain the official vs everyday name the way Girlguiding UK explains it. — Rlevse • Talk • 09:59, 30 July 2010 (UTC)

Agree.

• Move to Scouts New Zealand; see MOS:TM for capitalization rules
• Note legal name in lead or infobox using |namelabel1= and |name1=; see Wikipedia:Article titles. The organization does business as (dba) Scouts New Zealand, thus it should be the article title, with the full legal name noted.
• Update logo from website

---— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk 10:07, 30 July 2010 (UTC)

(Invited to weigh in at the Scouting talk page.) Well, to narrow it a bit, I think that the only viable candidates are it's official name, or one that it extensively uses to identify itself which is not an abbreviation. Is anybody here knowlegable on the latter? North8000 (talk) 11:34, 30 July 2010 (UTC)North8000 (talk) 15:24, 30 July 2010 (UTC)

(Invited to weigh in at the Scouting talk page.) I agree with change to legal name, I disagree with change to logo, they've gone to the same stupid generic website banner South Africa and others have gone to, all of a sudden it's a "new logo". Dispute heavily, no disrespect to Gadget850.--Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 14:14, 30 July 2010 (UTC)

I have moved it as suggested by Ed. --Bduke (Discussion) 07:51, 31 July 2010 (UTC)

Logo

Do we update the logo to the current one or keep the version that is no longer used just because we don't like the new one? ---— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk 17:06, 30 July 2010 (UTC)

It's not "no longer used", the logo is corporate branding, the badge is the membership badge.--Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 12:18, 5 October 2011 (UTC)