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Mistranslation[edit]

actually خاتم الأنبياء means the complementing (~last of series) of prophets, where خاتم is driven from the verb خَتَمَ means finish. yes, خاتم also refers to seal, just because the sealing is the last step after a letter is enveloped; but the seal of prophets is just senseless, seems to be auto-translated causing the mistake. however, i can't rename/move the article, if someone can help, then please don't forget to link this page to the new one (the complementing of prophets (?)) as redirection because it might confuse many people by translation mistake. Khaled.khalil 22:11, 29 July 2007 (UTC)

HOw do you distinguish a true prophet of God?? The answer is...for what he says will come to pass...Therefor, if Jesus Christ is noted in the Q'ran as a prophet of God...born of a virgin Mary ( because He is Holy- without sin), performing miracles , and raised from the dead...All that He said would be truth.. considering he is by the Q'ran's standard, and belief of Islam to be a prophet of God. Well, my friend, if you have read scripture..Christ himself says, The only way to the Father is through the Son.. I am the way,the truth and the light..no one comes to the Father but by me....He was baptised and God spoke ,,this is my Son, who I am well pleased... He said, God shall not live by bread alone but by every Word that proceeds out of the mouth of God...He claims,(Not to be a prophet)but to be the Son of God. This is why he was crucified..He claimed to be the Son of God and we Crucified Him. He then rose from the dead.. and walked the earth to reveal this truth..By Grace we are saved, it is not of ourselves, should anyone boost... Grace, given something I donot deserve. God so loved the world that He sent, HIs only begotten Son that whomsoever beliefth in Him should not perish but have everlasting life. He offers salvation to anyone that accepts that fact. Thank you Jesus. Thank you Jesus. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 66.59.121.174 (talk) 16:27, August 23, 2007 (UTC)

The scripture that you quote about what Jesus, peace be upon him, said was corrupted by men. Quran was send through Prophet Muhammad, peace and blessing be upon him, to correct the corruptions made by men and to reveal the truth. So your arguments are pointless in the eyes of Muslims. 94.41.30.49 (talk) 05:10, 24 February 2012 (UTC)
Dear Friends, The word "Theos" in Greek or "Aloha" in Syriac which is Equivalent to Hebrew Elohim and Jesus Used in Gospels about himself and his father is totally different that "Allah" that is used in Quran! And we mistakenly translate both "God" and this guide to differences between Muslims and Christians! Please refer to Elohim article. The Equivalent of Elohim in Quran is not "Allah" But Angels!--تسلیم (talk) 07:57, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

This article should be in the Ahmiddya category so I will remove the Islam banner 90.192.59.155 (talk) 12:56, 17 July 2010 (UTC)

Deserves to be in Islam category too.Peaceworld111 (talk) 09:18, 18 July 2010 (UTC)

Try to use the chronological details as per time of the scholars and do not repeat the sentences again by rephrasing. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tatom2k (talkcontribs) 19:21, 28 July 2010 (UTC)

It is best to separate it into two sections as I did earlier. Chronological order is difficult to determine although better.Peaceworld111 (talk) 20:14, 28 July 2010 (UTC)

آخر unambiguously means "last" ?[edit]

See آخر as Arabic adjective on Wiktionary
About خاتم : http://en.wiktionary.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ASearch&search=%D8%AE%D8%A7%D8%AA%D9%85&fulltext=1

--Jerome Potts (talk) 21:15, 23 December 2010 (UTC)
خاتم doesn't really imply last, I think it is a biased statement. Many of edits have been motivated behind a very (over 100 years) long debate between the Ahmadis and the mainstream muslims about the meaning of the word خاتم which appears in the Quran. I wouldn't like to open a debate here. However both parties agree on the best English translation Seal and I suspect that this is the reason why the page was initially created. Now the mainstream muslims would assume that the word seal implies some sort of closure, ie. last whereas the Ahmadis claim that it best implies a form of certification, authority or attestation, like the Great Seal of the United States. Yes, as you pointed out خاتم on wikitionary comes up with ring as the closest meaning and that is actually can be confirmed by doing a quick search on Google Arabic, which reveals that خاتم signifies some sort of a relationship with ring, like a wedding ring.Peaceworld111 (talk) 22:23, 23 December 2010 (UTC)

Manichaeans[edit]

While the article mentions the Bahai besides the more conventional Islamic currents ascribing to the idea of a 'seal of the prophets', I'm surprised that there is no mention of Mani and his use of the term 'seal of the prophets'. Especially considering the fact that Mani's use of the title predates Mohammed's by some 400 years. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 146.50.3.16 (talk) 09:45, 15 April 2011 (UTC)