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This is not equivalent to Confiscation[edit]

Search and seizure describes a concept relating to US law and is only an instance of Confiscation. Confiscation is a wider concept than Search and seizure. The redirect from Confiscation should be removed and an article created there (the original article restored, if there was one?) or at least a disambiguation page should be created (perhaps also with a link to the Wiktionary entry if that is appropriate). Any resulting Confiscation page can note Search and seizure with a hyperlink. Eilthireach 00:32, 15 May 2005 (UTC)

Smilarly, why does [forfeiture] redirect here? This article doesn't appear to deal with it at all. JonoP 16:52, 8 November 2006 (UTC)

I agree. I'm changing the redirects for Forfeiture and Civil forfeiture to redirect to Asset forfeiture.Terry Carroll 19:09, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

Yikes![edit]

This needs a complete rewrite. It looks like somebody started a page on Search and Seizure, which should have discussed the application of the 4th Amendment to criminal investigation, the exclusionary rule, search warrants, etc., and then somebody else went off about forfeiture, which would involve substantive criminal law, due process, public policy, etc. The two topics over lap just a little. In either case, they are taking away your stuff, but the legal concepts, personal rights, and public interests involved are different. "Confiscation" would describe the government's taking of title or ownership to property for punishment or crime abatement, but forfeiture is the term usually used in the U.S. (I have no idea what terms are used in other English-speaking countries.) Search and seizure is the government looking for and taking physical possession evidence of crime. I'm a criminal defense attorney and would love to work on this article if I ever have pause in this relentless stream of searches and seizures. --Mrees1997 00:25, 28 May 2005 (UTC)

Moving of text[edit]

I have moved all of the text from this article on forfeiture to asset forfeiture and improved the remaining stub to better describe search and seizure. --Cab88 13:21, 2 October 2005 (UTC)

Forfeiture still refers to this page. The redirect at Foreiture needs to point to Asset Forfeiture.
Civil_forfeiture still refers to this page as well, and should be redirected to Asset Forfeiture as well. Possibly that page should be expanded or renamed as well, as it focuses primarily on crime-related asset forfeiture and there are other, quite different legal proceedings bearing the same name ...
I just fixed both the Forfeiture and Civil forfeiture redirects. Terry Carroll 19:13, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

illegal search[edit]

Can someone with the requisite legal knowledge add information regarding what happens to evidence seized without a required warrant in various jurisdictions (US, UK)? Rusco

agreed[edit]

Totally agreed: search and seizure is one thing, forfeiture is another. This needs to be sorted out. Jorge331 15:03, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

I got a question... today we had a lockdown in my school and isnt that against the charter? I mean don't you have to have a legit reason to search someone or some people? Or is there just an exeption for high schools because all teenagers and only teenagers do drugs? I mean wtf u can't have steriotypeism as a reason. No I'm serious someone explain to me the difference between frisking some random person on the street and searshing random people/classrooms/lockers in the school. If u have an answer my email is mike_cowin_55@hotmail.com

Since you talk about the Charter, I am assuming you are Canadian. You do have some protection from illegal search but not as much as you would in your home for instance because your school locker is not your property but rather the property of the school. The charter only applies to the government and only protects you from having the evidence used in court. So even if the search is unreasonable, the school could use the evidence to suspend you or whatever. Eiad77 (talk) 22:20, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

Proposed Merger[edit]

There is a related article search of persons that is really in a bad way. I propose that it basically be eliminated and redirect to this article. Please comment here. Non Curat Lex (talk) 04:27, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

  • Oppose. I think the other article ("search of persons") could be improved, and it discusses issues beyond search of property: for example, in the U.S., police frisk citizens for hidden weapons without a warrant, due to a risk of imminent danger; they are not allowed to similarly search a home for hidden weapons, such as land mines inside the front door. Because searching people is an entirely different level of concern, I recommend NOT merging. Simply being a poor-quality article is not a sufficient reason for merging, because very few articles start out as high quality, due to a lack of time/experience of the volunteer writers. -Wikid77 (talk) 04:32, 29 July 2009 (UTC)
  • Support. The search of persons article is a stub that should be merged Ms.henrick (talk) 18:55, 10 June 2010 (UTC)


does going through a cellular phone without consent constitute as illegal search and seizure? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.229.71.240 (talk) 00:40, 14 November 2009 (UTC)

Evidence of other crimes obtained in a legal search[edit]

Could someone please add information on the question whether evidence of crimes other than the one for which the search was conducted may be used in legal proceedings? For example, a house is legally searched for stolen goods, and drugs or illegal firearms are found instead (or in addition). Thanks. --137.138.4.17 (talk) 07:26, 9 April 2010 (UTC)