Talk:Sechs kleine Klavierstücke

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Hi, clueless wiki user here, but I was trying to find Six Little Piano Pieces and couldn't via simple search. It isn't even on the first page of results. Can someone who knows what they're doing set it up so Six Little Piano Pieces redirects here? --Nathaniel, clueless wiki user —Preceding unsigned comment added by 152.42.181.209 (talk) 04:17, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

Schönberg --> Schoenberg[edit]

Why does this article use "Schönberg"? The only name for him ever used, especially in English, is Schoenberg. Schönberg only ever refers to his relatives, at least in my (extensive) experience. This may cause some confusion. I'm going ahead and changing this detail. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.65.36.225 (talk) 21:18, 9 March 2009 (UTC)

I cannot tell you why this article spelled his name thus, but you are right to change it in an English-language article. However, you are wrong when you say it only refers to his relatives. In fact, the Arnold Schönberg Center, which has the official Schönberg website, spells his name thus, on both their German and English-language pages, and in fact it is rare in German-language sources to spell it any other way. Naturally, "ö" is merely a shorthand way of writing "oe", just as "ñ" is short for "nn" (though I have never seen "mannana" or "suenno" spelled that way in Spanish), and "&" is short for Latin "et". I believe (though I do not have the statistics to back this up) that you will find British authors slightly more prone to use the German orthography than Americans are, but it is certainly a minority practice in both cases.—Jerome Kohl (talk) 23:01, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
Further thought: Since you have drawn my attention to this article, do you know how to correct the capitalization in the article title? Adjectives should only be capitalized in German when they are the first word of a title or sentence.—Jerome Kohl (talk) 23:05, 9 March 2009 (UTC)

Changes[edit]

I've made a few additions and changed the structure to try and split things up into sensible headings, fairly new around here so I don't want to tread on anyones toes! Clarified the composition date of the 6th piece: although Mahler died in May, the piece was not written until June 1911. Hopefully this wording makes this more obvious. I see the word 'Viertel' has been added fairly recently to this article (in the tempo marking for the 3rd piece) - I've taken it out as it doesn't appear in my copy (the Wiener Urtext Edition), happy for this to be reinstated if this is incorrect however. As mentioned, I'm kind of new to this so apologies if this is unhelpful! Amkilpatrick (talk) 14:24, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

Langsame cf. langsam[edit]

Why "Sehr langsame" for No. 3, but "Sehr langsam" for No. 6? -- Jack of Oz ... speak! ... 22:30, 23 October 2010 (UTC)

See the discussion immediately above. The word "Viertel" (crotchets) originally followed, and this (plural) noun requires the adjective to end in an E. If in fact the tempo marking in the score is just the two words, then of course you are correct, and it should read just "sehr langsam". Anyone have the score handy?—Jerome Kohl (talk) 22:58, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
I found it. Indeed the word "Viertel" does not appear in the score, but the symbol does and, as with abbreviations, such things are normally treated as standing in for the word, which would have to be pronounced if reading out loud. No. 6 also has the crotchet symbol, but it is enclosed in brackets, and so is probably an editorial addition.—Jerome Kohl (talk) 23:19, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
The German Wikipedia article names all six movements using note values. -- Michael Bednarek (talk) 09:29, 24 October 2010 (UTC)