Talk:Section 8 Chicago

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Relevant/Notable/Important?[edit]

Is this page even notable? How is a fan club worthy of an encyclopedia entry, especially a MLS fan club? MLS fans are so small in number in America and the fan clubs are an even smaller fraction of that group.130.127.3.249 (talk) 18:37, 29 February 2008 (UTC)JML[reply]

Relevance/Notability[edit]

If they are relevant/notable enough to be recognized by the state as an incorporated nonprofit organization, and have had feature articles in major newspapers like the Chicago Tribune -- one might feel that is enough to meet wikipedia standards. In any case, any regular weekly gathering of 1000+ likeminded people would probably be noteworthy in any other context.

Another view is there are a large number of individual groups and having a catchall page as this prevents offshoots and articles of even less relevance. 98.212.126.117 (talk) 02:55, 10 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

If you can add links or references to the these articles in major newspapers you will go a long way to proving notability.Hack (talk) 04:33, 15 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

This vendetta against soccer and it's support on wikipedia is really getting frustrating. A local moose club of 20 people could probably have their own page, but a soccer group which features hundreds of regular members has to fight it's way through....I'll try to link as much as I can. And the structure of one MLS supporters' group is very different than others. Groups independent of the actual franchise have individual scope and effort. Freedom4all (talk) 16:16, 15 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not really sure that painting the situation as a vendetta helps that much. Very few people will challenge the notability of a page, whatever the subject, if it includes solid independent references. In any case I think there is very good argument that the supporter group info should be included in the supporter section in the club page as a first resort.Hack (talk) 02:54, 16 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not sure exactly what you would like in terms of "solid independent references," but I would imagine that articles from a major US newspaper or a professional journal article specifically referring to(or about) Section 8 would qualify. Below are links from the Chicago Tribune, Chicago Sun Times and Sports Business Daily that not only reference Section 8, but actually focus on the supporters group. I believe that if Section 8 is notable enough to be the focus of articles from these publications,(I’d be interested to know the circulation of the Trib & Sun Times) then the page certainly passes notability standards for Wikipedia. I’m not advocating that Wikipedia include and group mentioned in a major newspaper but if you read the articles, which date from both 2006 and 2008, the focus is clearly on issues of the group itself. To me, this indicates that Section 8 is notable enough to garner a separate page.

http://archives.chicagotribune.com/2006/dec/14/sports/chi-0612140247dec14 http://mobile.suntimes.com/suntimes/db_9682/contentdetail.htm;jsessionid=1F939F89DC41891BDB11B33D835842E4?contentguid=Ux01C9ED http://www.sportsbusinessdaily.com/article/125862 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 161.150.2.55 (talk) 21:45, 21 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Relevance/Notability UPDATE[edit]

So, now that sources have been well-established, can the tags be removed? 82.132.139.211 (talk) 01:00, 8 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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