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Redirect[edit]

"Home Security" links here. It needs it's own article though. Home Security and Burglar Alarms are not similar enough to have an ambiguation link.

Sources are outdated. This article needs updating.[edit]

The sources quoted and the information contained in this article are far outdated and should be updated immediately.

Sources[edit]

The following source is not link spam:

Then what is it? -Will Beback 20:41, 30 October 2006 (UTC)
The source material. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.34.68.186 (talk) 00:35, 27 March 2009 (UTC)

Broadband[edit]

Warrenlead (talk) 05:22, 12 April 2008 (UTC) The Section on Broadband is definitely outdated. There are new products out now that use Internet plus GPRS Mobile Broadband with fall back to PSTN. These systems out perform all current standards. see http://www.uhssystems.com/products.php

Original Research[edit]

There are a bunch of sections describing various types of alarm sensors that end with a conclusion section. This is blatant original research, and should be removed as per WP:SYN. -- Javawizard (talk) 05:09, 31 August 2008 (UTC)

Could you site some specific examples? I believe I can fix them (without deletion) if I knew what the specific contended sections are. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.34.68.186 (talk) 00:37, 27 March 2009 (UTC)

unprofessional[edit]

"Burglar (or intrusion), fire, and safety alarms are all electronic today." The opening sounds like something from uncyclopedia. This whole article should be updated. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.27.58.80 (talk) 06:16, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

Done, albeit belatedly, 92.236.88.188 (talk) 10:41, 20 April 2009 (UTC)

Silent alarms[edit]

We don't have an article on silent alarms? That's what I came here looking for. I definitely don't get why Silent Alarm (an album) would be the primary topic for that subject. I had to search to find Silent Alarm (moved), which redirected here. I don't get why Silent Alarm (moved) redirects to Burglar alarm, as they are commonly used to alert of a robbery, rather than a burglary. I guess I'll have to go elsewhere to learn about those things, though. How odd. Heather (talk) 05:54, 23 February 2010 (UTC)

Smoke, heat, CO[edit]

I'd like to find out more about this. In my limited exposure to fire alarm installations, the fire alarm was required to be strictly separate from the intrusion detection and access control systems (right down to not sharing the same conduits for wiring). What sort of installation would use smoke and heat detectors connected to the intrusion panel? How does this get reported? If there's an attended security desk and the alarm says "Smoke in Conference Hall", then the security guys will call the fire department; but a building with an attended security desk is probably big enough to require a separate fire system anyway. As for CO, wouldn't you want the fire department to respond instead of the fuzz? They'd be equipped for it, whereas a police officer won't have a respirator and will have to call the fire department anyway once he's on-site and recognizes the source of the alarm. I suppose if you have, say, ammonia refrigeration (curling rink) or chlorine (water treatment) on site, you could hook up those detectors to the intrusion panel as well; but then you'd need a fairly complex panel to decide who to call for what sorts of alarms. --Wtshymanski (talk) 13:55, 27 June 2011 (UTC)

You're talking about the sort of panel where it's required by code to have a fire alarm: apartment buildings, offices, large houses split into flats.
There is also a simpler situation, where a single house (where few countries require a fire alarm) has a burglar alarm panel installed. This simple panel, not required for the building to meet any code, often also include some fire protection capability. It's not separated, it may not meet local regs to be recognised as a "fire alarm" (where such an installation is mandatory). However it does put fire alarms into houses that don't otherwise have one, so it does have some value. Andy Dingley (talk) 14:32, 27 June 2011 (UTC)
Do you have a pointer to such a system? Would this be something like the "Radio Shack" or "do it yourself", home-center type of installation? In this part of the world new homes must have smoke and CO detectors, but they are free-standing and don't have a central panel or off-site alert capability. --Wtshymanski (talk) 15:17, 27 June 2011 (UTC)
Optima Accenta G4, one of the most common domestic burglar alarm panels in the UK. The sort of thing a jobbing electrician or alarm installer fits when you phone up and ask for a burglar alarm.
Fire Zone
Zones 7 and 8 may be programmed as a 24 Hour Fire Zone operating all of the time except during engineer mode.
Andy Dingley (talk) 15:29, 27 June 2011 (UTC)
Professionally installed, a long step up from the do-it-youself level, but not necessarily the systems for a school or hotel. I see ADT offers CO monitoring, too. (Ironically their local office is downstairs from me.) --Wtshymanski (talk) 18:21, 27 June 2011 (UTC)
"not necessarily the systems for a school or hotel."
You could save us both a lot of time by reading the same statement a dozen lines back up the page.
No, this is not a "fire alarm", as required to satisfy the code for fire alarms in the cases when fire alarms are required on buildings. It is instead a burglar alarm. Burglar alarms are the subject of this article. Andy Dingley (talk) 19:27, 27 June 2011 (UTC)
Your scholarship is exceeded only by your gentility. --Wtshymanski (talk) 19:30, 27 June 2011 (UTC)

Microwave barriers[edit]

It is not true that microwave barriers are extremely sensitive to weather as rain, snow and fog. Since a microwave barrier works with electromagnetical energy (like cellular mobiles) he don't stop working. A major "con" is the need of a "sterile" perimeter line because trees, bushes or anything that blocks the beam would cause that the barrier will not working at all or will generate nuisance (not false!) alarms (Nuisance Alarms NA is not the same as False Alarms FA. FA is due to a technical fault). A barrier with a reach of 100 to 200 m, needs a corridor with a width of approx. 5 to 7 m and a flat ground surface.

Fibre optic cable[edit]

They are different types of systems. Simple systems functions on the principle of transmission of light: cutting the cable gives an alarm. It's utilised for the detection of picking objects (e.g. solar panels). But the real thing don't work on the basis of loss of light and is absolutely not the same as microphonic cable. They are some types of optic fibre: for distance as 100 to 150 m the industry uses cable with one plastic fibre. For big perimeters, cables are usually composed of 6 to 8 glass fibres. They reach a distance from 100 meter to more than 20 kilometer with one power LED. Those cables are mostly armed with a cover of steel wires and a polyurethane jacket. The power led injects into one of the fibres rays of differents frequencies. The light in a fiber optic cable travels by constantly bouncing from the cladding (mirror-lined wall). Because the cladding does not absorb any light from the core, the light can travel very long distances. When the fibre bends (due to vibrations) the frequencies change. The analyser (in little systems: the sole fibre returns to the anlyser - in big installations: the mirrored light returns in one of the other fibers) sees those changes and after comparison with models can give precise alarmsignals. But modern anlysers applie on the received variables also the so called Fourier Transform: with those caculations - made possible by current fast processors - the analysers give the location of disturbance with a great precision (e.g. 0,5% of the cable lenght).

Pepper Spray Home and Business Security Systems[edit]

With the upswing of burglaries pepper spray accessories have come on the market, they are attached to the alarm system and literally bomb or fog specific rooms in a home or business. Would this be a useful update to this entry on Security alarm systems?

One example among several.

BurglarBomb Pepper Spray Home and Business Security Systems.

http://burglarbomb.com/

Rlwright (talk) 02:59, 16 November 2013 (UTC)

Random text[edit]

Seems to be some text at the top of the page that does not belong, something about a centipede

not sure if intentional; dunno how to remove it either

cheers 107.202.20.112 (talk) 01:59, 8 May 2014 (UTC)