Talk:Sefton Delmer

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During WW2 he was also involved in many forgeries of photos and documents - not just radio etc.159.105.80.220 (talk) 13:38, 12 January 2011 (UTC) Source Zundel trial transcript etc.[reply]

It seems strange to describe him as "Jewish-English", "English" should be sufficient since "Jewish" do not describe nationality, but religion and was he even religious? Theres no mention of religion anywhere else in the text, which make it even stranger. Else everyone should have similar descriptions, i.e. "Christian-French" or even "Atheist-American" - and so forth ad absurdum...

"Atrocity propaganda is how we won the war."[edit]

Is this a genuine quote by Sefton Delmer?

"Atrocity propaganda is how we won the war. And we're only really beginning with it now! We will continue this atrocity propaganda, we will escalate it until nobody will accept even a good word from the Germans, until all the sympathy they may still have abroad will have been destroyed and they themselves will be so confused that they will no longer know what they are doing. Once that has been achieved, once they begin to run down their own country and their own people, not reluctantly but with eagerness to please the victors, only then will our victory be complete. It will never be final.

Re-education needs careful tending, like an English lawn. Even one moment of negligence, and the weeds crop up again - those indestructible weeds of historical truth."

- Delmer, Sefton (1904-1979), former British Chief of `Black propaganda': (Said after the German surrender, in 1945, in a conversation with the German professor of international law, Dr. Friedrich Grimm.)

It was allegedly spoken in conversation with an antisemitic German professor named Friedrich Grimm and alluded in a later publication by him called Politische Justiz, published in 1953.

He himself however doesn't say this was said by Sefton Delmer, so chances are it is a false quote invented by Grimm. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:8388:502:3D80:71E4:75DE:11A9:E465 (talk) 16:24, 15 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Where did he die?[edit]

The info box on the subject has a death date, but no death location. Wiki info boxes on death usually have also, the place of death. TGC55 (talk) 01:34, 17 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Gliwice Radio Tower image[edit]

The picture of the Gliwice Radio Tower, next to the section discussing Britain's clandestine transmitters only, seems somewhat irrelevant—it's certainly misleading. I'm thinking of deleting the image. (The dramatic ending of "Gustav Siegfried Eins" transmissions may have been indirectly inspired by the false flag raid on the German Gliwice Radio tower by the Germans themselves in 1939, although this doesn't have a reference.) There are a lot of pictures of the Aspidistra site, the actual transmitter used by the PWE, but I couldn't find one reflecting the right period (it's a microwave tower now).--AntientNestor (talk) 12:23, 18 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Done.--AntientNestor (talk) 09:38, 21 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Now replaced by photo of Aspidistra site.--AntientNestor (talk) 06:41, 5 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

"Jewish Australian"[edit]

An IP editor keeps adding that SD was Jewish, and once again has been given a block for their trouble. I couldn't find a source for this (apart from one or two obviously derived from WP itself). Anyone take this further?--AntientNestor (talk) 10:05, 22 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

No evidence for influence of Gleiwitz incident[edit]

In the real-life Gleiwitz incident German troops, in the guise of Poles, stormed a radio station and broadcast an anti-German message as a provocation. No source that I could find suggests that this inspired Delmer's "false flag" radio station. Tagged {{Original research}}.--AntientNestor (talk) 09:00, 23 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Removed--AntientNestor (talk) 10:48, 27 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Correspondence between Hitler and Delmer[edit]

The article contains an image of a 1931 letter from Hitler to Delmer, sourced from Wikimedia Commons. If anyone's interested there's a much clearer image (with a translation) from an auction catalogue, here, but it's not free to use.--AntientNestor (talk) 13:26, 30 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]