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"It is related to a harem, and is a place of cruelty, debauchery and odalisques."

Can someone tell me why exactly cruelty? At worst its a place to have sex in... just not cruelty. I'll change that... LeinaD natipaC 16:32, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

I removed it.. it sounds like somebody editorializing, even if it may have been true robo 21:44, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
"At worst its a place to have sex"? Let's see, the women in the harem were generally slaves as were the attendants who probably did not volunteer to be castrated. Isn't it at least possible there was cruelty involved?

The last picture is coronation. not courtiers. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 04:22, 12 May 2012 (UTC)


How is the word "Seraglio" pronounced, and should we include that at the heading or not? Sylocat 17:12, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

pronounce as: Sera leo (the g is silent) —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 00:06, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

Forgotten Merger[edit]

I agree with it DenizTC 10:44, 11 August 2007 (UTC)

I don't. They are two separate topics. Beorhtric 10:25, 29 August 2007 (UTC)


Both Kizlar Agha and Kapi Agha redirect here, but the article doesn't address those terms or appear to be related to them in any way. I think that's bad and something should be done about it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 05:57, 6 December 2008 (UTC)